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Subject: Why France is Pushing Its Students to Master English
 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by yasawakic at 2009-11-3 08:55
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You cannot understand anything if you still think with these old stereotypes from 200 years ago....frenchies are not thinking their language is superior, they are just proud to talk  ...
Sorry but you are talking your head off without knowing what is being discussed. I lived among your compatriots and have relatives that have turned their coats to become more French than any French. I love the French language (and don't think this language needs "to adapt"). It should, however, befreedfromthe fetters that tie it to the pompous sages that run the Academie whatsitsname in Paris.

But French have for centuries been noted for their superciliousness; the French speakers (not necessarily French nationals) have been standoffish to the Dutch (or why do the Flemish and the Walloons in Belgium loathe each other so much?), to the Germans (the German dialects of Alsace-Lorraine were severely frowned upon and students were discouraged from speaking them at schools  after WW II and until the 1990s), and the French attitude to the English has been troubled for over six hundred years, not for linguistic reasons alone (though for such reasons too).

The French have - until recently lacked sophistication just as much as Anglophones lack it too.
2009-11-3 09:50 PM#21
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Originally posted by tradervic at 2009-11-2 20:39
... given the craziness seen with the folks in Quebec and France about the naunces of the "colonial" vs. the "mother tongue".

It's like talking about the Hispanic la ...
have my very own to worry 'bout  
2009-11-3 10:09 PM#22
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for french readers

il y a un probleme crucial dans l apprentissage de la langue anglaise en france.
la priorite est donnee a l ecrit et non pas a l oral et il est evident que  nos etudiants francais on un besoin crucial de pratiquer la langue anglaise a l 'oral.
ceci ne peut etre favoriser aue par de multiples echanges et longs sejours  a l etranger.
a la fin de leurs etudes , nos chers etudiants rentrent en competition avec de nombreux etudiants etrangers qui ont acquis un meilleur niveau qu eux .
The competition is hard.

Sorry but i am a bit lazy today  so i write in french
and sorry the accents are missing because i don t use a french keyboard.
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"frenchies are not thinking their language is superior"
Explain why they have laws forcing a certain % of radio music to be French? I don't know of any other country in Europe with laws like that.

"People like you living in nowaday society always need to use "fight", "superior", "war", "domination", "punish", "revenge", to explain anything"
Way to make a baseless comment. You notice I put superior in quotation marks? Moron.

"and so the canadian quebec (canadian is developping french educationnal programm these years), "
Only in Quebec. French is never going to become the major language in Canada just like Welsh won't become the major language in Britain.

"Cultural diversity is an ennemy for USA. "
The USA is the most diverse country in the world.

"Also, I always noticed that anglo always says how bad is a foreigner english accent"
Ah, so you are aprt of the "anglo" using group? Your credibility has plumetted. At my school we had Italian, German and Dutch students on exchanges and NOBODY had a problem with their accent. Many people actually liked them. I know, I was there. The only times we moan about accent is when it is so bad you can't actually understand what the person is saying.
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"Sarkozy  is a hungry JEW"
Thats true, Bernard Kouchner, has also uncovered the hidden zionist hunger agenda by saying Israel will "eat” Iran.

But joke aside, indeed Sarkozy (and Kouchner) is a warmongering zionist neocon-lapdog US puppet.  
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by ragerancher at 2009-11-3 13:50
"frenchies are not thinking their language is superior"
Explain why they have laws forcing a certain % of radio music to be French? I don't know of any other country in Europe with laws  ...
first time in quebec a decade ago at the gas station...i cursed at the gas station attendant for pretendin not to understand english & demanded me to spit out french...merde was all i kno at the time  
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by NYChinatown at 2009-11-4 03:53


first time in quebec a decade ago at the gas station...i cursed at the gas station attendant for pretendin not to understand english & demanded me to spit out french...merde[/col ...
it s already a good start ........

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by icewendigo at 2009-11-4 03:34

Thats true, Bernard Kouchner, has also uncovered the hidden zionist hunger agenda by saying Israel will "eat” Iran.

But joke aside, indeed Sarkozy (and Kouchner) is a warmongering zio ...
What connection with the topic here ?
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ragerancher:
USA has powerful cultural lobbies, Holliwood is an example: let me tell you that few years ago there was a true struggle between France and  Usa about the thrisd world countries who were asked by these US groups to change their policy and laws, letting USA groups buy their whole cultural policy. Of course, excepted a few little coutnries, most of countries in the world cannot challenge the US cultural machine, the local movies production fall, and  that's why , in South East Asia, for example, in cities like Saigon, Taipei, Pnomh Penh, etc, peoples have no choice when they want to go to the cinema, it's Warner Bros village or nothing. It's the brad pitt, angelina jolie, bruce willis, cocktail, and nothing else.
did you ever heard about movies like "the certical ray of the sun-vietnam-, moolade-africa-ousmane sembene-, -cylco-vietnam-, the ricefield people-cambodia-, all these excellent movies could never exist in he USA system, all of them -I can write you a list with hundred of such example- were made in cooperation with french production .
That's what France will never accept: for the french radio, it's a good example of the difference with USA: frenchies consider that CULTURE IS NOT A MERCHANDISE, we call it the "cultural exception", and that's why french radio must respect this certain %. Any culture in the world is no less good than US culture. Any country has the right to promote, protect its culture. Those who dont understand this will soon or late finish disguised in mickey mouse in their f...g Dysneydumbland.
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Reply #25 ragerancher's post

The USA is the most diverse country in the world.

LOL, I'm sure you are laughing when you write so ridiculous thing: USA lobbies destroy our world biological heritage (for exampel traditional seeds from many countries, to let their monsanto and other companies control all what we eat-, they destroy music, cinema culture of other, they destroy environment in other countries, too much example to write here.
Us frenchies use to take the food example: I could feed an american with different french food every day for 10 years, I'm not sure they eat different food in two days.
Let me laugh when you talk about "diversity  in USA....you call USA cinema diversity? you think USA music is diversity? I'm really LOL.
2009-11-4 10:36 AM#31
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by yasawakic at 2009-11-4 10:36
I could feed an american with different french food every day for 10 years
Wow, impressive! I think I can say the same for Chinese food.
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Reply #30 yasawakic's post

I appreciate France for taking an independent stand, maintaining their own set of nuclear weapons, questioning American actions, etc. But why is Sarkozy kissing up to the US now?
2009-11-4 11:22 AM#33
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