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yuan_zcen
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"One Person One Vote" nearer in China
One step nearer equality
By Zhu Zhe (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-10-28 07:52
For the first time in China's history, rural people may be about to get as much say in national decision-making as their urban counterparts.
The nation's top legislature yesterday started to discuss a draft amendment to a law that - if passed - will ensure voters in the countryside have as much influence as voters in cities.
The change would mean voters across China would be equal when they choose deputies for the people's congresses, including the National People's Congress (NPC), which is the country's highest State body and its top legislative chamber.
The draft revision to the Electoral Law, which was tabled for first reading at the bimonthly legislative session of the 11th NPC Standing Committee, requires "both rural and urban areas to adopt the same ratio of deputies to the represented population in the election of people's congress deputies".
The change sets out to correct an imbalance in lawmaker elections, Li Shishi, director of the Legislative Affairs Commission of the NPC Standing Committee, said yesterday while briefing legislators.
Under the existing law, each rural deputy represents four times as many people as an urban deputy. That means some 960,000 rural people are represented by each rural NPC deputy, while urban NPC deputies each represent 240,000 urban people. Currently, the NPC has about 3,000 deputies. Critics fear that the current system ensures a bias toward urban issues.
So far, the discussion and documentation do not include details of the number of people that will be represented by every deputy. Li said those specifics can be decided after the amendment is passed.
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2009-10-29 01:29 PM
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Should be titled:
One person
One vote
One choice
2009-10-29 01:53 PM
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QUOTE:
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Should be titled:
One person
One vote
One choice
Why 'one choice'? What's so important?
2009-10-30 04:11 PM
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When you go to the bakery and they have only one kind of bread ...
will you also ask: What's so important ?
2009-10-30 04:29 PM
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True. You vote for people who all have a very similar ideology. It's closer but still isn't a true expression of what people want. It's what people want within a narrow set of guidelines proposed by the current government. Some people on this forum will have a fit at the idea considering they have been putting democracy down as evil at every possible opportunity.
2009-10-30 04:35 PM
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by
yuan_zcen
at 2009-10-29 13:29
One step nearer equality
By Zhu Zhe (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-10-28 07:52
For the first time in China's history, rural people may be about to get as much say in national decision-making as t ...
"a slave is 3/5 of a man"
2009-10-30 05:14 PM
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QUOTE:
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Should be titled:
One person
One vote
One choice
You are commenting on China's internal affairs in your capacity as a diplomat posted in China?
2009-10-30 05:22 PM
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QUOTE:
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at 2009-10-30 16:29
When you go to the bakery and they have only one kind of bread ...
will you also ask: What's so important ?
No, I don't agree with your comparison. There is only one brand of bread, but various of kinds.
2009-11-2 03:46 PM
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QUOTE:
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No, I don't agree with your comparison. There is only one brand of bread, but various of kinds.
Who chooses the kinds that are made available for purchase?
Will anyone in the party be allowed to run for a position, or will the selection of who is available to fill a position be chosen by the party?
2009-11-4 01:22 AM
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QUOTE:
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Who chooses the kinds that are made available for purchase?
Will anyone in the party be allowed to run for a position, or will the selection of who is available to fill a position be chosen by ...
Maybe not. But at least it's more fair when a motion is approved or opposed.
2009-11-5 03:49 PM
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QUOTE:
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at 2009-11-5 02:49
Maybe not. But at least it's more fair when a motion is approved or opposed.
I do think it is a step forward, but probably more so for the mental acceptance of voting than the successful application of a process.
The likely problem that will arise, is that two men who are quite similar in views will be put forward as candidates. This may result in the people feeling that they still don't have a voice, even as they are being told they do have one...... thereby increasing frustration.
2009-11-5 05:07 PM
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QUOTE:
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I do think it is a step forward, but probably more so for the mental acceptance of voting than the successful application of a process.
The likely problem that will arise, is that two men who ...
Voting for representatives, actually, we don't know who we are voting for and what's his promotion.
2009-11-6 04:44 PM
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One person
one vote
zero choice !
Better stay with my Coke Zero (at least I have another choice in Pepsi Max)
2009-11-6 04:46 PM
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QUOTE:
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at 2009-11-6 16:46
One person
one vote
zero choice !
Better stay with my Coke Zero (at least I have another choice in Pepsi Max)
That's right.
No matter who got elected in Phillipines, he must be a Catholics.
Or Vatican will bust him/ her.
2009-11-6 04:48 PM
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QUOTE:
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That's right.
No matter who got elected in Phillipines, he must be a Catholics.
Or Vatican will bust him/ her.
95 % of Filipinos are Christians anyways, not all government officials are Catholics.
2009-11-6 04:55 PM
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QUOTE:
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at 2009-11-6 16:55
95 % of Filipinos are Christians anyways, not all government officials are Catholics.
2009-11-6 05:04 PM
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QUOTE:
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yuan_zcen
at 2009-11-6 03:44
Voting for representatives, actually, we don't know who we are voting for and what's his promotion.
That is unfortunate.
Knowing what a person purportedly stands for, seems a natural element of the voting process to me.
2009-11-6 11:51 PM
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How much influence does the 'top legislative chamber' in China have? How many proposals made by the standing committee of the PRC (Hu, Wen etc) have been voted down in the last few years? (I'm guessing zero, but I'd be interested if there are examples)
2009-11-7 01:03 PM
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I don't see how significant this is considering that it is a common practice in other countries to weigh votes depending on where they come from. For example, in the Australian Senate, there is the same amount of representation for New South Wales as there is for Tasmania. Tasmania has roughly half a million people and New South Wales has 6-7million. So the vote of a Tasmanian is worth 12-14 times more than someone from New South Wales. This is a historical product of the Federation process that took place over 100 years ago.
I would be glad to see a shift from the whiny nonsense of city people to the serious issues of country people in national decision making though...
2009-11-8 02:31 PM
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QUOTE:
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harmless
at 2009-11-6 16:55
95 % of Filipinos are Christians anyways, not all government officials are Catholics.
5% people, 50% votes?
2009-11-9 05:08 PM
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