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Subject: China postpones EU summit over Dalai Lama visit
 
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China postpones EU summit over Dalai Lama visit

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Updated: 2008-11-27 06:35

BEIJING -- China has to postpone the 11th summit with the European Union scheduled in early December because of French leader's planned meeting with the Dalai Lama, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said here Wednesday night.

The decision is made because the summit does not enjoy a good atmosphere, nor can it achieve expected goals, Qin said, adding the cause and responsibility do not lie on the Chinese side.

China has paid great attention to the summit and has made active efforts and lots of preparations for it, the spokesman said.

However, the French leader, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, made a clear announcement that he would meet the Dalai Lama after the China-EU summit, Qin noted, saying the Chinese government and people are extremely dissatisfied about that.
To maintain good relations with France and the European Union, China has told France time and again to properly handle the Tibet issue so as to create necessary conditions for the China-EU summit. Unfortunately, the French side does not actively respond to China's efforts of maintaining relations with France and the European Union, Qin said.
2008-11-27 09:14 AM#1
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Overreacting

The DL is not going to get what he wants and Tibet will not have its "autonomy".

Europe cannot dictate to China anymore what it can or cannot do, nor can China dictate to France whom Sarkozy can or cannot meet with.

I think China should conduct business as usual and not let this DL be an impediment.  The way China is handling it, Europe could misinterpret that as an intimidation attempt by China. France can interpret that as China trying to impose its will on Europe.

Why let the DL spoil a good thing?
2008-11-27 09:59 AM#2
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good move, china. no talks with them as long as they continue to meet Dalai
2008-11-27 10:06 AM#3
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fair and reasonable

I think it is reasonable for China to announce the postponement. China has expressed her stance to  France time and agian and France seems to tatally ignore it. Actions speak louder than words. It's time for China to take actions not to let others interfere in our internal affairs.
2008-11-27 11:29 AM#4
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A rotten fish .

I think China has the right to feel slighted . Friend of my enemy is my enemy !  As to why any nation , EU or not , would care to continue this futile relationship with a dead-duck leader is beyond me . It is tantamount to walking with a smelly rotten fish in your trouser pocket . Do not be surprised if your friends give you a clear passage .
2008-11-27 03:40 PM#5
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This is a new attitude of europe about tbt problem: sarkozymade a big mistake  thinking he could, alone, facing the problem, now, with an united europe , it will be 1:1. United eur. is more strenght. The mistake of sarkozy before Olympic Game was to be alone: His foreign affair minister initally  wanted that DL, in the Europe parliament, swear he wont ask for indepdce, that should have avoid ch to rely it propaganda, wanting to make DL considered as a terrst.

The problem is not autonomy, even if one more time, ch gvt refuse something that have been voted by ch herself in her constitution!
europe never considered to command anything with china! they make mistakes somone but see them as dumb should be a big mistake

No, the real problem is that DL must facing now the really hard new tbt generation that was near to change is mind and ask directly Indpdce.

Of course, all these news are censrd in CD and ch, but were relayed in all the planet these days.

SO, the problem is the new generation: that begin to be more and more hard, different with DL: next year will be a celebration for tbt pples, the 50 years of a special event: we all hope that this new generation will keep listen to the DL...
2008-11-27 03:55 PM#6
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The French Government is making a tactical mistake here

They should know what is right and what isn't. Only because the DL pays (well he actually doesn't, his Hollywood friends do) a presidential suite at the Crillon Hotel in Paris, doesn't mean he should be considered as a political figure. He's just a clown puppet of some actors and actresses who pretend to seem cool saying they know him
2008-11-27 03:58 PM#7
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by yasawakic at 2008-11-27 16:55
This is a new attitude of europe about tbt problem: sarkozymade a big mistake  thinking he could, alone, facing the problem, now, with an united europe , it will be 1:1. United eur. is more strengh ...
No, the real problem is that DL must facing now the really hard new tbt generation that was near to change is mind and ask directly Indpdce.

If he doesn't agree, it just needs some words from him and the T. Y. C. is silenced. He doesn't have to face a new T1b3t4n generation (he is not living in T1b3t) ,but just several thousand r3fug33s who like to make noise. It will be interesting to see from which country the t3rr0r1sm advocates want to operate. India? I have my strong doubts.

Of course, all these news are censrd in CD and ch, but were relayed in all the planet these days.

As I wrote somewhere else, it's the boss who creates the problem with his unrealistic demands. Just refer to what he said last Sunday.

SO, the problem is the new generation: that begin to be more and more hard, different with DL: next year will be a celebration for tbt pples, the 50 years of a special event: we all hope that this new generation will keep listen to the DL...

What soever, their unrealistic dreams will be dashed.
2008-11-27 04:37 PM#8
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Toys 'n Pram

Grow up China. You embarrass yourself every time you start screaming because other foreign leaders don't share your world view. Time to show some maturity and a little backbone on this issue.
2008-11-27 09:13 PM#9
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The world has grown used, nay: Inured to a ranting, raving, apoplectic China. When one is as wrong as the Chinese, you can hardly make any mistakes any more. Act a little wiser, and suddenly you will be celebrated as 'imaginative' and 'wise'...

Maybe the Chinese do get it right a generation or so later... A little less temperamental by that time, we hope!
2008-11-27 09:49 PM#10
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by iamnaive at 2008-11-27 23:00
You know which people have the longest feet ?

The Chinese of course.

Why ?

Even if you try very hard not to come to close to a Chinese - you always step on their feet.

So - their feet m ...
How about your feet?   Look at them.
2008-11-27 10:02 PM#12
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Originally posted by mengzhi at 2008-11-27 15:40
Friend of my enemy is my enemy !  As to why any nation , EU or not , ...
I do believe the French are making a mistake here but PLEASE......

Europe is NOT a nation.

If China has an issue with the French, then take the issue up with the French!

If this is a political ploy to give notice to other European nations or to try to force other nations to persuade the French they are on the wrong track, it is unlikely to help. the French have always had their own opinions, even when in the minority, but they tend to stick to it even under pressure from others.

The Brits just stated (David Millibrand) that they view TBT as part of China's territory: now they cannot cement new ties at the EU Summit?

Take it out on the French if need be but why snub (possibly too strong but you know what I mean) the others?
2008-11-27 10:09 PM#13
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by iamnaive at 2008-11-27 22:00
You know which people have the longest feet ?

The Chinese of course.

Why ?

Even if you try very hard not to come to close to a Chinese - you always step on their feet.

So - their feet m ...
That can't be true!

I heard that Buddy has clown's feet!

And now, I hear, that he is NOT even Chinese?!
2008-11-27 10:11 PM#14
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Sarkozy to blame for summit delay

French President Nicolas Sarkozy's reckless plan to meet with the Dalai Lama has forced Beijing to take the unprecedented decision of delaying a summit with European leaders, the Foreign Ministry said on Thursday.

"In China we have a saying: 'Whoever causes the problem should solve the problem.' It is not China that caused the present situation," the ministry's spokesman Qin Gang told reporters at a news briefing.

On Wednesday, Beijing decided to delay the 11th Sino-EU Summit scheduled for Monday in France, which holds the rotating EU presidency. Paris announced earlier that Sarkozy would meet with the Dalai Lama at a Dec 6 ceremony in Poland to honor former Solidarity leader Lech Walesa.

Premier Wen Jiabao was due to attend the annual meeting to discuss ways to tackle the financial crisis.

Beijing is still willing to promote relations with France and the EU, and whether the meeting will be rescheduled depends on the reaction from the French side, Qin said.

In Paris, a French government spokesman confirmed on Thursday that Sarkozy would not change his plan to meet with the Dalai Lama.

The 27-nation EU issued a statement to express its regret and said that it would continue to promote the strategic partnership with Beijing, especially under the global economic situation that "calls for very close cooperation between Europe and China".

The EU Chamber of Commerce in China said in a statement that the delay of the summit would "make the two sides miss a good chance" of communicating especially in the current global financial situation.

"We hope this will not trigger a hostile act or acts of trade protection which will lead to the escalation of economic nationalism," the statement said.

Yu Sui, a scholar in Sino-European relations, said this is not the first time Sarkozy has used the "Tibet card" for his own political interests and hence affect the hard-won prosperous cooperation between Beijing and Paris".

Sarkozy said ahead of the Beijing Olympics that his attendance at the opening ceremony of the Games was conditional on the progress of talks between the central government and envoys of the Dalai Lama.

He did appear on Aug 8, and later avoided meeting with the Dalai Lama.

"Now Sarkozy has changed his mind again. In the long-term, I don't think he will benefit. China will never concede on the Tibet issue."

Yang Chengxu, former head of the China Institute of International Studies, said it is highly impossible for the summit to resume this year, given the attitude of Paris and the limited time.

The situation will probably change when Czech Republic takes the rotating EU presidency from France in January, he said.
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I think the Chinese gov. is on the right track.

those that meet or support sarkozy's meeting with the daila lama is trying to carve up China.  the Chinese gov.  should not put up with this kind of humiliation anymore.  sarkozy obviously does not care about the Chinese people's feelings.  if sarkozy doesn't value it's relations with the Chinese people than so be it.  Beijing should let the world know what is acceptable and what's not acceptable to the Chinese people, especially since March 14 r10ts.  WE ARE NOT STUPID!!!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by cestmoi at 2008-11-27 09:59
The DL is not going to get what he wants and Tibet will not have its "autonomy".

Europe cannot dictate to China anymore what it can or cannot do, nor can China dictate to France whom S ...
Never do it without full confidence, is a principle of chinese. I guess China may have some fatal key to EU interest, so it dare overreact.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2008-11-27 22:02


How about your feet?   Look at them.
We can never step on his feet because they are grasping bananas.
2008-11-28 03:40 PM#18
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by zhoupu at 2008-11-28 16:40


We can never step on his feet because they are grasping bananas.
2008-11-28 03:57 PM#19
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The attitude of the Emperors



QUOTE:
Originally posted by zhoupu at 2008-11-27 11:14
China postpones EU summit over Dalai Lama visit
Yep, demand everyone else kowtows to the leader.
2008-11-28 08:32 PM#20
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