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Man should never act as low as CNN
Among western news media who covered the riots in Tibet earlier this month, the US-based Cable News Network (CNN) was a markable one for its serious distortion of the truth and betrayal of basic journalistic ethics. The so-called western mainstream media organization posted a picture showing a bunch of people running in front of a military vehicle on the street of Lhasa. However, Chinese netizens found that the right side of the original picture, which was cropped out by CNN, shows some rioters throwing stones at the vehicle. The flying stones, burning motorcycles and insane mobsters throwing stones are still visible from the original picture.
But CNN editors just took it as nothing. They cut off the images that can fully reflect vicious faces of the rioters. Thus the implications of the picture published by CNN are just the opposite to the fact. Their reports aroused great indignation from netizens all around China. Angered by the distorted coverage, they united to hit back at what they called "a conspiracy", even with a slogan “Man should never act as low as CNN”!
The slogan looks unfriendly, but expresses the anger of Chinese netizens. A netizen said: “CNN had cropped the picture, cutting off the part showing rioters attacking military vehicles. This is distortion of facts and can mislead the readers. What’s the motive behind this?” Another said:"Chinese people can not neglect the evil ambitions behind this.” “CNN’s hypocrisy and ugliness was fully exposed by this biased report,” wrote a netizen.
“The incident once again shows that: the western media are holding a biased attitude when reporting on China. They just ignored the facts and look at the actions of the Chinese government in an fragmented and arbitrary way. This may have something to do with their link to their respective governments. In addition, we can see from this incident that the so-called freedom of press advocated by western countries has underlying political motives. There is no ‘pure freedom of press‘ at all,” a netizen said.
Besides CNN, a number of other Western media also distorted the truth in covering the riots. On March 17, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) released a picture on its website showing Chinese riot police officers helping medical staff carry a wounded person into an ambulance. The caption on the website said “There is a heavy military presence in Lhasa”. British newspaper the Times uses words such as “military crackdown”, “violent control”, and “hundreds Tibetans were killed” in its coverage to distort the truth.
On Marth 18, the German newspaper Berlin Morgenpost posted a picture on its website in which police in Lhasa rescued a young man of Han nationality assaulted by rioters. But the caption distorted the fact as "insurrectionist taken away by police."
The American Fox TV said in a picture's caption on its website that the Chinese military dragged some protesters onto a vehicle, but actually the uniformed people were Indian police.
German news television N-TV used a picture and a video sequence taken in Nepal’s capital Kathmandu of Nepalese police arresting protestors in a report about the riots in Tibet.
A netizen commented: “Some western media have constantly denigrated China in their reports and created ‘news’ out of nothing.“
“The western media must have some hidden objectives in creating these distorted reports on the incident,” a Chinese wrote.
“Due to deep-rooted prejudice and different values, the self-esteemed ‘objective’ western media always cover news on China with bias and sometimes even prejudice,” said a netizen.
“How could western media call their reports completely ‘objective and justice’ when reporting on other countries’ interior affairs based on their own ideology and perspective?” a netizen noted.
It has been two weeks since the Tibet riots happened and lots of rioters have turned themselves in. However, Chinese people have not fully recovered from the aftershock of the CNN’s biased reports.
Chinese people, especially its vast number of netizens can not forget easily what the so-called western media’s ethic principles are. Today, whenever netizens found things unjust or biased, they would just say “Man should never act as low as CNN
2008-3-28 09:30 PM
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where did you get this info...
and i am pretty sure the chinese's government can sue/embarrass CNN for the alteration of the picture as well as the original story itself
2008-3-28 09:44 PM
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thanks to Internet, and more and more Chinese students who can freely browse English websites, and tell what is truth, what is not.
2008-3-28 09:56 PM
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Yeah, now chinese government and western world should change their mind when handle chinese puplic affairs because of internet.
We are sorry seeing CNN and western world are keeping blind on chinese folk strength, and skeptically think all anti western medieas activities are sponsored by chinese government. They are now old style, they are underestimating normal chinese people, which misleads them to a wrong way.
If they can/t deal with chinese folk power and ignore their views, the whole western medieas will be laughted by China like now, they are now losing their reputation and respect, just some liars and jerks for chinese people,
Yes, man should never act as low as cnn!
2008-3-28 11:15 PM
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QUOTE:
Among western news media who covered the riots in Tibet earlier this month, the US-based Cable News Network (CNN) was a markable one for its serious distortion of the truth and betrayal of basic journalistic ethics. The so-called western mainstream media organization posted a picture showing a bunch of people running in front of a military vehicle on the street of Lhasa. However, Chinese netizens found that the right side of the original picture, which was cropped out by CNN, shows some rioters throwing stones at the vehicle. The flying stones, burning motorcycles and insane mobsters throwing stones are still visible from the original picture
Getting the taste of the western media?
This is just a single example, you got to get ready for a lot more
2008-3-29 01:47 AM
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A quick summary of the situation so far:
CNN: cropped a picture to show people running in front of a military vehicle
Distorted reporting? Not at all, plenty of people were running in front of military vehicles (had CNN been allowed to report from Lhasa, they could have taken hundreds of pictures of this)
BBC: “There is a heavy military presence in Lhasa”
Distorted reporting? Absolutely not, there WAS heavy military presence in Lhasa. To state: "no military presence" or "little military presence" WOULD be distorted reporting. It doesn't MATTER that the photo showed an ambulance (had BBC been allowed to report from Lhasa, they could have taken hundreds of pictures of the heavy military presence in Lhasa).
Berlin Morgenpost: "insurrectionist taken away by police"
Distorted reporting? Absolutely not, insurrectionists WERE taken away by the police. To state: police failed to take away insurrectionists WOULD be distorted reporting. Obviously, it's a mistake to show a photo of some other activity taking place, but it doesn't change the fact that the paper reported the truth: insurrectionists WERE taken away by the police. Again, had they been allowed to actually report from Lhasa, they would have had no difficulties presenting plenty of photos of insurrectionists being taken away by the police.
Fox: "Chinese military dragged some protesters onto a vehicle"
Distorted reporting? Hardly. It seems HIGHLY plausible that plenty of protesters were dragged onto Chinese vehicles. That's how most countries would arrest protesters. We can be fairly sure that had Fox been allowed to report from Lhasa, they would have had no difficulties presenting plenty of photos of protesters being dragged onto vehicles.
Now, luckily for all of us, I've JUST received the following revised statement from BBC together with an APOLOGY and a plea to CD not to take legal actions:
"There was NO military presence or military vehicles in Lhasa and NO insurrectionists were arrested by the police. Since nobody has been arrested so far, NO protesters has been put on any vehicles whatsoever. In fact, there were NO riots in T/bet at all. We now know (thanks to photos from Fox TV) that it ALL happened in Nepal."
Now that's what I call ACCURATE and UNBIASED reporting
Oioioi
2008-3-29 03:07 AM
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Gutteer Press takes on a new meaning .
Thank you basket for the summary and details of those examples of criminal " journalism ". The Chinese and most of the world are alerted and made aware of this now , helped along with internet . The protests on forums around the world too demonstrate that the network and spread of news has reached a new and high plateau .
As the old saying goes " You can fool some people all the time : all the people some of the time : but not all people all the time ."
This " revelation " is not new . For many a long decade , the west has their hands on the loudest megaphone . They are used to dishing out crafted and created stories , with twists and tuck , to suit their agenda . They have always been in the business of information hegemony . They cover their sins and often turn them round to accuse the victims of crimes . Eg : The Palestinians kill only " innocent civilians " but the Israelis always kill " terrorists " . Haha and humbug with hypocrisy .
I hope there is still some decency left amongst the media profession in the west , to apologize and to mend their ways. Is this too forlorn a hope to wish ? Time will tell .
2008-3-29 03:39 AM
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Is that really the best you have?
CNN called the riots "riots", they can't be hiding the violence when they are reporting the violent nature of the rioting! I'm really starting to believe that "Chinese netizens" are just searching for reasons to be offended.
2008-3-29 05:36 AM
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CNN's official response.
(CNN) -- CNN has been singled out for criticism for our coverage of events in Tibet through an anti-CNN.com Web site and elsewhere. We have provided comprehensive coverage of all sides of this story, but two specific allegations relate to pro-Tibetan bias. We would like to take this chance to respond to them:
Allegation 1: CNN intentionally cropped an image in order to remove Tibetan protesters throwing stones at Chinese trucks.
CNN refutes all allegations by bloggers that it distorts its coverage of the events in Tibet to portray either side in a more favorable light. We have consistently and repeatedly shown all sides of this story. The one image in question was used wholly appropriately in the specific editorial context and there could be no confusion regarding what it was showing, not least because it was captioned: "Tibetans throw stones at army vehicles on a street in the capital Lhasa." The picture gallery included in Tibet stories includes the image. (See the gallery)
We have also published images showing violence by Tibetans against the Chinese. A March 18 story shows Tibetan youths attacking a Chinese man. (Read the story)
Additionally, we have published video from the Chinese media apparently showing Tibetans attacking Chinese interests in Lhasa. Video (Watch the video) »
Allegation 2: CNN referred to Tibet as a "country."
CNN's policy is to refer to Tibet as "Tibet Autonomous Region of China." In our dozens of stories on the topic to date, we are aware of only two instances where it was incorrectly referenced as a country.
CNN's reputation is based on reporting global news accurately and impartially, while our coverage through the use of words, images or video always reflects a wide range of opinions and points of view on every story.
2008-3-29 05:40 AM
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CNN reporter will openly lie with a straight face.
one example is when CNN reporter in BEIJING says this infront of the camera.
A while ago one chinese man is about to hand me a tape but he was immediately taken away by cxhinese police.I have'nt heard from him again.
suggestin that the mentioned man may have been tortured.
2008-3-29 07:48 AM
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The pruning season is here .
The CNN's mickey mouse response is the death wish for the organization . It is pure defiance and denial in the face of being caught pants down and arms in the till . Nasty and shameful . But like some " principled " Americans who still claim that Iraq is the land of milk and honey ,CNN is going to weather the storm .
The world is the judge , not you CNN . Your reputation is tarnished and your trustworthiness smashed . No matter how you like to turn it around , you will have to wear the odor and stench .
It is great to see the rest of the world rising up and telling the emperor he is without clothes and he is no longer the emperor at all .
That " born to rule " attitude needs a big pruning back .
2008-3-29 09:36 AM
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Thank God...
The Chinese have finally awakened!!! Would CNN have made any attempt to defend itself if the entire Chinese nation, especially the youthful bloggers, had kept quiet? Definitely no!
It's effort at defending itself (weak attempt) is a good sign. It's on the defensive because it now knows that it isn't the Chinese government that is the issue here, but the PEOPLES of China...
The Chinese people have been patient, polite and silent for too long! Time to protect the integrity and sovereignty of China. What is alarming to some westerners is that the Chinese are ready to do exactly that.
Many of them actually thought that the Chinese wanted to overthrow the government, that they were just waiting for the right moment. Well, surprise, surprise! From now on when dealing with China it is the Chinese peoples they'll be dealing with. Not just the government...
Time for those westerners to grow up...!!!!
2008-3-29 12:24 PM
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# 15 Reply to huang_wei ,
Well sir , do I take it as a compliment that you have devoted your very first post in taking me to the cleaners in no uncertain terms ? It is a record I am sure .
Let me defend myself please . I have been engaged in a debate here about the western media's unconscionable and prejudiced behavior in reporting the riots in Tbt . I have attempted to show ( as are many many others ) , with examples , that BBC ,CNN , German N-TV ..... seem to be in conspiracy to blacken my country's name . If I have been a little unkind , undiplomatic and unpolished , I meant to be. My venom is directed at the western journalists and professionals running these establishment , not white people .
I am surprised that you , claiming to be a Chinese , should take me to task over this .What would you like me to do . Roll over and play dead as the colonialists demanded of our forebears ? To do that is not to endear yourself to these bigots . It only encourages more abuse . You will learn as you grow up .
I would like you to apologize to me for the unwarranted spray and spit you delivered . You either produce your points to defend your view that I should not be " racist " when the white race ( a handful ) kicked me in the shin, or hold your peace. I have not used the " white " card . My description of " born to rule " referred to the criminal journalists.
Welcome to the forum . It can only get better from here , for you ,huh ?
2008-3-29 03:11 PM
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INTERESTING how the world has become a better place...!!!
Yes, indeed, it is wonderful to see the Chinese finally wake up. It's INTERESTING, too, to see how some people don't like that! I wonder why? But, you know, you can't stop progress. The world is certainly a far better place for it. But they don't see it....
INTERESTING how these people also won't see the obvious; CNN deliberately crops a picture to slant a story its way and these people refuse to see that. Maybe their big egos blind them? INTERESTING how these people say that the west has now 'learned the Chinese are crazy'. Oh? How do these people know that? Now that is INTERESTING. They speak for the entire west> Or maybe their ego has gone amuck...?
I find it INTERESTING that CNN was very defensive in its explanation. It's also INTERESTING that the Times Online ran a similar defensive piece of its own. And at the end they said that western media should be more sensitive about stereotyping the Chinese! Hahaha! Now that is so INTERESTING! Even more INTERESTING is the fact that two German TV stations actually apologised for their misconducts. Wooooo, it's all so suddenly INTERESTING, isn't it?
INTERESTING too that on Canadian T.V. last night there was a piece hinting of 'racism' directed against the Chinese by the rioters. An eyewitness, white fellow, pretty much said so. Also in a fine article on antiwar.com, Justin Raimondo went further and stated boldly that the attacks on China by these western liberals had a tone of 'veiled-racism' to them. My, my! It really is INTERESTING how all these little facts come together, isn't it? INTERESTING how the truth eventually comes out, isn't it...?
Well, as the Chinese like to say; May you live in INTERESTING times...(or something like that).
Now the meaning of that is really INTERESTING...
2008-3-29 04:53 PM
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Sure, it's quite easy, in fact, most of the Westerners here think you're quite crazy.
(RE image) We've all seen the image, some of us even have accounts with the place it was purchased from. Those of us outside of China can certainly use the Google cache to see a history of the story. So now, tell me, why is it, if CNN was trying to slant a story, would they caption the picture with "Tibetans throw stones at army vehicles as a car burns on a street in the capital of Lhasa."? The only explanation for the initial outrage is simple: the entire thing was taken out of context by someone who hates CNN, the photo dumped onto Chinese forums without its caption. The only explanation for the continuing outrage and your behavior in particular is that there is something in China's water.
(RE defensive) CNN's statement was not "very defensive" at all. It did not accuse people of dishonesty or that the outrage was being controlled by a clique. CNN refuted allegations calmly, providing the evidence required to demonstrate that they have been providing objective coverage of the situation in China. Indeed, the very fact that you cannot find anything more, and that what has been found is nitpicky to an extreme, in the dozens of stories CNN wrote and broadcast over the course of the events demonstrates clearly that CNN's reporting was totally unbiased.
(RE Times Online) In general, the United Kingdom is an independent nation, not under US or CNN control. While CNN has offered to completely purchase the country, there has been no response to their offer.
(RE Canadian TV) Canada, likewise, is an independent country and currently under the control of neither the US nor CNN. This will change on December 23, 2009, when Canada is incorporated as states 51 through 60.
(RE Raimondo) Raimondo's makes no mention of CNN. Indeed, it contains only two mentions of the media: with respect to the "shrill" Chinese state-controlled media and China's concerns about Olympics press coverage. Indeed, most of the article is simply the run-of-the-mill anti-Americanism he is... well... he's not famous for it because he's not really famous... ignored over. Go ahead, read the article, I'm quite certain that you haven't because, had you, you'd not bring it up in this discussion.
(RE interesting times) I already live in interesting times, sadly I must deal with boring people like yourself. Perhaps it is just me, but I never found the whack-a-mole game enjoyable, even if I must play it time and again.
2008-3-29 05:26 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by
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Sure, it's quite easy, in fact, most of the Westerners here think you're quite crazy.
I'm sure it's of no consequence whether you think critics of CNN are "crazy", nor when you describe Chinese as "crazy". Nor when Seneca brings "yellow skin" into the argument and criticizes their "defect in intelligence" for preferring Xinhua.
In fact, I'm sure that no-one of any consequence takes you and Seneca seriously at all.
2008-3-29 06:22 PM
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mean what i mean...
QUOTE:
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Do you mean having yellow skin is a birth mark to owning truth and factuality????
what i was sayin is that i DONT believe any news agency would jeopardy their image & reputation by fabricatin the STORY! somethin like that we might find only & ONLY in national gossippin tabloids.
2008-3-29 07:02 PM
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The Tide is Coming In .
The Walt Disney rationalizations for the malicious acts of falsification of news is as interesting as the crime itself ! I wish to point out the basis of this " mistake " . It is not a mistake , it is a deliberate act . An act coming out of disdain for the non whites , especially the Chinese because they are being presented as the next demonic monster : pinching the whites' jobs , selling them cheap goods , threatening them militarily and challenging their hegemony everywhere . It is the re-sharpened end of the old colonial supremacist attitude . Dismissive of the " natives " , who cares ?
This world wide reaction shows that the victims CARE . With a concerted and united voice , we can make the difference . Like the black civil rights of the 60s , our Chinese Rights movement should continue till we are treated as equal . Don't let up !
2008-3-29 07:07 PM
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Western Media
I am in the West right now, and the coverage is all pro-separatism, as if the Tibetan people are being oppressed.
Western media is a product of its culture and it is decidedly anti-socialist. It still has a latent "cold-war" mentality.It will continue to nag away at China in order to subvert the Chinese socialist republic (and any other socialist republics independent of the USA).
All China can do really is remain vigilant and counter the Western propoganda with educated and understandable political education and counter opinion, especially for its citizens.
It is also a valuable lesson for Chinese media such as CCTV, to learn from these Western journalistic farces and to move towards balanced and professional journalism as China becomes more important and dominent on the world stage.The people of the world deserve a truthful, equal, and intelligent reporting of events.
2008-3-29 09:13 PM
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It's clear, then, that by "West" you do not mean "United States" because I live here and there isn't any pro-separatism coverage.
2008-3-29 10:31 PM
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