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Ma Ying-jeou elected Taiwan leader

(Xinhua)
Updated: 2008-03-22 20:25

TAIPEI -- Taiwan's Kuomintang (KMT) declared its candidate, Ma Ying-jeou, won the island's leadership election on Saturday, according to an initial ballot count.

Taiwan's KMT candidate Ma Ying-jeou celebrates election victory in Taibei March 22, 2008. [Agencies]

Taiwan residents began voting in the leadership election at 8 a.m., voting ended at 4 p.m.. Results are expected at 9.30 p.m. About 17.3 million people voted at 14,401 polling stations, said the Taiwan authority.

Frank Hsieh from the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) and his running mate Su Tseng-chang, are competing to be Taiwan's next leaders with Ma Ying-jeou, former KMT party chairman, and Vincent Siew.

Taiwan residents also voted on Saturday in two "referendums" on launching a bid to join the United Nations, one put forward by the DPP and one by the KMT.

In January, the KMT won 81 of the 113 seats in Taiwan's "legislature" elections, scoring a landslide victory over the DPP, which got 27 seats.

UN membership referendums defeated

Taiwan residents on Saturday vetoed two "referendums" on launching a bid to join the United Nations, according to an initial count of the votes on Saturday.

A vote on whether the island should seek UN membership under the name "Taiwan," as proposed by the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), was held simultaneously with the leadership poll.

A second "referendum," held at the same time as Saturday's election and proposed by the Kuomintang (KMT), on whether the island should "return to the global body under any name," was also vetoed by voters.

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2008-3-24 09:29 AM

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Taiwan province should be in NPC

Taiwan is a wealthy and internationally well connected province of China with a well-educated workforce.

The NPC should ask Taiwan to send representatives to the NPC. In time, I also would like to see Taiwanese representatives from the city of Taipei and from Taiwan itself sit in the Politburo of China. It will take time, but when that happens, we know there is a reunification of China.

By the way, if Taiwan gets to have reps in NPC and the Politburo, I would like to see Hong Kong have same likewise. It is after all, a one-party democracy.

I have an idea how the navy of Taiwan can be part of China's armed forces: how about the Taiwan navy takes on the role of the Coast Guard for all of China? Any comments?

2008-3-24 09:51 AM

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The electorate on that island are more concerned about their livelihood and the province's economic future. Many of their industries have relocated to their Motherland and that's where their common destiny lies. Anything else would deepen their isolation and made them even more beholden as a pawn and a puppet to foreign mischief-makers who would only use them for objectives that have only negative bearing on their future wellbeing. Ma knows this but does he have the foresight and gumption to do the right thing once and for all for the people in this too-long drifted province?

2008-3-24 10:53 AM

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it`s good to us,i think

the result ends up the worry of the people in mainland.we can see the bright future before us

2008-3-24 11:22 AM

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This could mean a TWO PARTY system in China!

The CCP, centre left and the KMT, centre right.

ha ha ha

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2008-3-24 12:41 PM

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the relationship of Taiwan and China will better if the KMT have the right.

2008-3-24 05:42 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by cestmoi at 2008-3-24 10:51
Taiwan is a wealthy and internationally well connected province of China with a well-educated workforce.

The NPC should ask Taiwan to send representatives to the NPC. In time, I also would like ...

Cestmoi,

I believe that time will tell how fast a rapprochment between the Mainland and Taiwan can be achieved. Ma has just been elected. It is most urgent to first establish direct air and sea links between both sides of the Taiwan Strait. This should go hand in hand with the permission for Mainland Chinese to visit Taiwan and to permit the free flow of capital and investments between both sides. These steps should be given top priority. If they work out well this would already mean a huge improvement. After 59 years of separation there is no need to speed things up and/or to put Mr. Ma under pressure. Both sides need to know each other better and to build mutual trust. If this can be achieved, more difficult problems will be solved as well.

2008-3-24 06:05 PM

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i like ma much more than xie
it is good for mainland and taiwan

2008-3-24 07:25 PM

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so glad to hear that ma is the leader

2008-3-24 07:27 PM

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Hm...

... don't hold your breath folks... the KMT are going to be friendlier than the DPP - but not that friendly. The CCP is NOT going to broach any other organized party in the NPC, period.

2008-3-24 09:17 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-24 21:17
... don't hold your breath folks... the KMT are going to be friendlier than the DPP - but not that friendly. The CCP is NOT going to broach any other organized party in the NPC, period.

Not today or tomorrow but it will happen sooner or later. In any case, Ma's victory is certainly good news for everyone

2008-3-25 02:08 AM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by tradervic at 2008-3-24 22:17
... don't hold your breath folks... the KMT are going to be friendlier than the DPP - but not that friendly. The CCP is NOT going to broach any other organized party in the NPC, period.

Direct air links, permitting mainlanders to visit the island, closer business ties and confidence building military arrangements are applaudable first steps. Of course it takes time to bridge the gap of 59 years of hostilities but now it seems the kick-off has been done.

2008-3-25 09:05 AM

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Satsu,

Don't kid yourself. The KMT might be campaigning on closer ties, but the DPP also unilaterally severed several business links. Recall that, after over a decade of negotiations, the KMT has never delivered much concrete progress. Before any of this can move forward, you know what must be done: face-saving. The PRC must officially rewrite its stance on the civil war to make it akin to the way the US portrays its own, a stance that allows the KMT to play, at worst, the prodigal son.

Until that happens, those weird notions of honor I loathe so much will demand that the uneasy peace be the best to hope for.

2008-3-25 12:26 PM

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Gloom or boom ?

This is the result all Chinese want to see . Well done Taiwanese compatriots ! This election result has been in the pipe line for a long time . It has brought the situation from the brink of a precipice .The mealy mouths and mean fisted humbugs are not happy but that itself makes me smile . We have had a few punters here who harped on and on about the " majority " of the Taiwanese want independence and to join the UN : that the DPP will win. These are the same fake prophets who predicted all manner of ills for China : economic bust , social unrest , Muslim insurgencies and now failure of Beijing Olympics !!

From their records , I take heart that whenever they bang on about some disaster pending to fall on China , the reverse happens .If I were one of them , I would give up . But not these feral , they are a dedicated bunch of masochists . Self defeat and self flagellation turn them on .

2008-3-25 03:01 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by interesting at 2008-3-25 13:26
Satsu,

Don't kid yourself. The KMT might be campaigning on closer ties, but the DPP also unilaterally severed several business links. Recall that, after over a decade of negotiations, the KMT ha ...

Schreiber,

What has to be done we better leave to the Chinese to decide for themselves (on both sides of the Strait). I don't think that they need advice about how to proceed next. We're not writing 1949 not even 2007. Over night a huge potential threat has turned into something friendly that nobody had expected. The timing of the instigated Tibet unrest and the Taiwan elections wasn't coincidental.

2008-3-25 03:23 PM

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So, what about Ma's call to boycott the Olympics becasue of Tee/bet? His dopping unification from his political latform (because it is supported by nobody). What about his plan to go the the US before he is made Prez? What about his insistence that there can never be unification between TW and the PRC while China is under its current political system?

2008-3-25 03:35 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by questioner at 2008-3-25 16:35
So, what about Ma's call to boycott the Olympics becasue of Tee/bet? His dopping unification from his political latform (because it is supported by nobody). What about his plan to go the the US bef ...

Questioner,

What are you afraid of?

We're not (yet) talking reunification. Why so hasty? Unification will take a looong time. Ma already said on his first day that he needs at least 8 years to implement what he has in mind.

As for the Olympics? Not sure, but I believe that wasn't the last word. We'll see.

Btw, since he's a realist he said that he intends to visit Tokyo and Washington before he takes over the presidency. I think there is nothing wrong with this. He's going there as a private person.

2008-3-25 04:03 PM

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Manufactured Concerns .

questioner,

Stop worrying , it may not even happen . Ma has a huge domestic constituency to placate . He is steering a narrow course between rocks . Moreover , he has to wait for the Mainland to make the first overtures yet .

All your worries are really wishes , aren't they ? You hope and wish that Ma will fail because you are a covert Taiwan splittist , I can tell . Ma's main declaration is that his ship of state is not going the direction of that of Ah Bian the clown . This is the key point at this stage of the chess game . No so called " independence " or " UN membership" sort of nonsense . This saves a lot of money and time on both sides of the Strait . Ganbei .

2008-3-25 06:25 PM

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I agree with mengzhi's comments.
There is a lot of work to be done and it is only beginning. The last thing Taiwanese are going to be worried about for now is whether or not they will take part in the Olympic games or not.
Ma has made it clear that he wants to improve relations with China during his four year term in office and that would be far mor important than boycotting the games this time around, the Olympics will gome around again by the end of Ma's first term in office. If he, Ma, does a good job of improving Taiwan's relations with China while protecting our sovereignty it will indeed be as mengzhi said, steering a narrow course between rocks. Not the words I would have choosen but the idea gets accross.

2008-3-25 09:46 PM

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Seen that arguement before...

QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 3/25/2008 03:03 AM
Btw, since he's a realist he said that he intends to visit Tokyo and Washington before he takes over the presidency. I think there is nothing wrong with this. He's going there as a private person.

... and watched the Foreign Ministry still file a protest - this will be no different. One does need to keep up appearances, a la Taivvan is a rogue province and all activity on the island is illegal in the eyes of the CCP.

As much as the business people here are licking their lips for better business - the politburo has their eyes only on one prize, the elimination of a historic foe.

2008-3-25 09:49 PM

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