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Subject: Will China follow USA "way of life"?
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willysierens
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Will China follow USA "way of life"?
China is following an ultracapitalist development route now. The advantage they still have is that in the name of their "communist" ideology, they still reserve the right to interfere with the free market mechanism, which is great because any truly free market would collapse (all banks bankrupt) in a matter of a decennium or much less. The state always needs to be ready to clean up any big mess made by the capitalist class!! Capitalism can never survive itself without profound state intervention.
Nevertheless, the "China is the greatest" rethoric and optimism should be looked upon with suspicion by common people. It is utterly impossible that the average Chinese will acquire the lifestyle of the average American now.
That can never happen. Where would the 25 barrels of oil per year per Chinese come from? (Now 2-3!!).
That does not mean China will not surpass USA, because USA must go down.
But the world is to expect a totally new social development route from China.
Otherwise China is going to burn all its coal and convert it to gasoline, because to drive a car is the dream of any poor who wants to become prosperous in the traditional sense.
If all chinese families drive cars, goodbye to global climate!!
I suggest innovation should be towards happiness without private cars, the "Chinese way of life".
PS China has 0.15 hectares productive land per inhabitant. No way to grow a rich diet ever. Too many people having too few resources.
2006-1-11 07:32 PM
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no need to follow a lifestyle of usa.
we have our own ways to enjoy our life.
2006-1-12 10:49 AM
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No need to follow. But happy life all over the world have many in common.
2006-1-12 11:03 AM
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China can do better than the USA way of life.
It would be a shame if too many Chinese tried to follow some of the shallow, wasteful aspects of US life. Better to use your economic and technogical power to improve the lot of all citizens while picking and choosing the best aspects of life from your own and other nations and incorporating them in a manner that can be sustained with China's large population.
Sustainability wil be a real problem for all industrial nations.
2006-1-14 04:32 AM
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given the same level of development in economics, chinese would be happier than the US. i bet.
even now...we are still full of hope, and most happy..
2006-8-1 11:58 PM
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chinese is the greatest people inthe world
they are so great, hard-working and easily controled!
2006-8-2 12:11 PM
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cannot follow Amerikan way because cannot secure the same level of....
...of resources. you'll need to be "minting money" to buy up the "technology needed" as well....
and it's an expensive lifestyle....
difficult...
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2006-8-2 02:06 PM
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by
willysierens
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China is following an ultracapitalist development route now. The advantage they still have is that in the name of their "communist" ideology, they still reserve the right to interfere wit ...
WHAT MAKE YOU ASK THIS???
WITH TECHNOLOGY, FOOD CAN BE CREATED IN ABUDANCE
& ALSO PEOPLE MUST NOT WASTE!!!
DO YOU LIKE USA MATERIALS THINGS OR SPIRITUAL???
2006-8-2 02:19 PM
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redundancy
The question asked here is quite redundant as already every problem that exists in the lives of Americans is
becoming a problem is Chinese lives as well. A few examples:
- the levels and number of people who are obese is increasing
- the quest to escape the realities of life, ie through the use of drugs (whether they be illegal or alcohol and
cigarettes is a major problem)
- the divorce rate is increasing rapidly
- the number of unwed mothers is increasing
- the number of youth honoring the past culture of China is decreasing dramatically
- the number of youth asking "why" is increasing tremendously
- the number of youth accepting the "controlled way of life" in China is decreasing very fast
- sexual promiscuity (although it has always been there) is coming out into the open
- homosexuality (which I don't consider a problem, but many do) is revealing itself more and more
- gambling's popularity is exploding (it's such a myth that there is no gambling in China); if you don't believe
this one, you should take a trip to Macao and see what is there and what is being built
- more and more people want firearms (don't believe this one - look in a internet cafe, they're not reading or
sending emails, they're playing games with GUNS; which is the most popular game at a fair - not throwing
darts at ballons, it's one where people are allowed to shoot a gun; which is the most popular toy for a young
boy - not a truck, but a gun - if you don't think that little boy will want the real thing when he grows up, you're
blind); I have a Chinese acquaintence of mine who knows that I am a firearms enthusiast who asked me to
his home the other day to show me something. I was quite curious, as I had never been to his home before
that. He took me into the lower level of his home and took out from hiding seven "handguns" that he had
built himself. I questioned him thoroughly about this, because I was amazed by his "courage" because if he
would be caught, he has so much that he has worked so hard to get that he could lose. It has always been
a real wonder to me that the Chinese government, in it's quest to totally control the populace, allows that
populace such free access to gunpowder in the form of fireworks. The homemade "guns" that my friend
showed to me that day displayed the force of many handguns in my collection back home.
- the crime rate increases (I anticipate wholeheartedly a backlash on this one but please factor in the reported
crimes and the ones that are overlooked, ie prostitution and gambling, by the police and the ones that the
police participate in themselves)
- the gap between the haves and the havenots is increasing steadily
- the "material" attitude of the youth
- the individual debt is increasing
- individual automobile ownership and desire to own is increasing dramatically
- aids and other stds are increasing
- the number of children taking care of their elderly parents is decreasing
- the number of children wanting to follow their parents as farmers is decreasing
- the elderly population is growing exponentially
- the peoples trust in their government is decreasing
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2006-8-2 03:23 PM
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Embrace Change
The world always changes. Change is not to be feared, but should be embraced. China's continued reforms are bringing hundreds of millions out of poverty and giving most citizens many more choices of literally everything in their lives, and that should be celebrated.
New institutions will come into being, new relationships will form. Life is full of hope. The glass is more than half full. The chance comes but once every several hundred years, and China must not miss the boat - it is time to charge full steam ahead and gain as much advantage as possible, so that China and her citizens can the nation back to her rightful place in the world, a position China occupied for most of the last 5,000 years of human existence.
2006-8-2 04:27 PM
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The question should be "Will America Follow China's Way of Life?"
2006-8-2 05:19 PM
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countries come and countries go
according to the great MARX's theory, country is just a tool for ruling.
so, rich man chooses a rich life and poor man chooses a poor life.
don't connect everything to country, native,...........
all depend on MONEY
2006-8-2 09:03 PM
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if china becomes richer, oil will be more expensive.
then only a few people can enjoy luxury life STILL.
so this thread is nonsense.
all chinese should do is hard working, HARDER working!
2006-8-2 09:09 PM
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crude oil is under the control of america.
so if america wants chinese follow his way of life, and chinese can follow...
if america don't want......
o, god.
damn USA
2006-8-2 09:20 PM
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i would like to mention that we have already lost our way by following a american oriented way which other parts of the world are doing.
don't you have t-shirt on with jeans dressed pretty nice while having a pair of nike or whatever
2006-8-2 10:44 PM
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by
willysierens
at 2006-1-11 19:32
China is following an ultracapitalist development route now. The advantage they still have is that in the name of their "communist" ideology, they still reserve the right to interfere wit ...
DO YOU THINK THE MATERIALISTIC & BIG BUILDINGS IN USA ARE GOOD???
SADLY,THEIR BIG CHURCHES ARE EMPTY!!!
WHICH IS BETTER - SPRITUALITY OR MATERIALTY???
2006-8-3 10:09 AM
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the people trust in their government is decreasing?
maybe the government hasnot done everything well
dut they did many things for us
it can only say they still have a long way to go
and they should improve a lot
2006-8-3 12:12 PM
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In my own opinion,i'm concerned for our youngster.more and more young people even little guys that just were born are becoming more and more western.mainly because they acceptted lots of western culture and western advanced things.as overkiller said,it's absolutely true.
It's time to Change,Must immediately
2006-8-3 06:20 PM
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QUOTE:
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airtickets
at 2006-8-3 18:20
In my own opinion,i'm concerned for our youngster.more and more young people even little guys that just were born are becoming more and more western.mainly because they acceptted lots of western cu ...
Good logic & reasoning!!!
Ya - they must change including some teachers plus less "white" teachers,engineers,etc....
2006-8-3 06:28 PM
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the key point is MONEY
it is not a big deal about becoming western or eastern.
the most important thing for all good governments is find out a way to improve people's living condition.
it is nonsense to discuss westlize or eastlize.
east or west, money is best!!
2006-8-3 09:15 PM
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