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700 Millions worldwide would like to switch countries

From a Gallup Survey

Every day, immigrants leave their homelands behind for new lives in other countries. Reflecting this desire, rather than the reality of the numbers that actually migrate, Gallup finds about 16% of the world's adults would like to move to another country permanently if they had the chance. This translates to roughly 700 million worldwide -- more than the entire adult population of North and South America combined.

From its surveys in 135 countries between 2007 and 2009, Gallup finds residents of sub-Saharan African countries are most likely to express a desire to move abroad permanently. Thirty-eight percent of the adult population in the region -- or an estimated 165 million -- say they would like to do this if the opportunity arises. Residents in Asian countries are the least likely to say they would like to move -- with 10% of the adult population, or roughly 250 million, expressing a desire to migrate permanently.

United States Tops Desired Destination Countries

The United States is the top desired destination country for the 700 million adults who would like to relocate permanently to another country. Nearly one-quarter (24%) of these respondents, which translates to more than 165 million adults worldwide, name the United States as their desired future residence. With an additional estimated 45 million saying they would like to move to Canada, Northern America is one of the two most desired regions.

The rest of the top desired destination countries (those where an estimated 25 million or more adults would like to go) are predominantly European. Forty-five million adults who would like to move name the United Kingdom or France as their desired destination, while 35 million would like to go to Spain and 25 million would like to relocate to Germany. Thirty million name Saudi Arabia and 25 million name Australia.

Roughly 210 million adults around the world would like to move to a country in the European Union, which is similar to the estimated number who would like to move to Northern America. However, about half of the estimated 80 million adults who live in the EU and would like to move permanently to another country would like to move to another country within the EU -- the highest desired intra-regional migration rate in the world.

Most of the world's international immigrants, according to the 2009 United Nations' Human Development Report, move from one developing country to another developing country or between developed countries. Gallup's data would suggest then that the countries people desire to migrate to permanently do not necessarily reflect reality -- especially in regard to developing countries. Eighty percent of those in developing countries who would like to move permanently to another country would like to move to a developed country, while 13% of respondents in developed countries would like to move to a developing country.

Gallup's Potential Net Migration Index

If all adults who desire to move to another country permanently actually moved to their desired destination country today, some countries would suffer tremendous losses in human capital and others would be overwhelmed. Gallup's Potential Net Migration Index (PNMI) is the estimated number of adults who would like to move out of a country permanently subtracted from the estimated number who would like to move to it, as a proportion of the total population. The higher the resulting positive PNMI value, the larger the potential net population gain.

Across the countries surveyed, Singapore posts the highest positive PNMI of all countries and areas, with a net migration index value of +260%. This means that Singapore's adult population would increase from an estimated 3.6 million to as high as 13 million. The Democratic of the Congo (Kinshasa) posts the highest negative PNMI, with a net migration index value of -60%, which means its adult population would decrease from an estimated 32 million to as low as 13 million.

Implications

While Gallup's findings reflect aspirations rather than intent, they suggest hundreds of millions are feeling pulled or pushed, for various reasons, toward countries other than their own. Who these potential migrants are, where they'd like to go, and why, will continue to be crucial for leaders in countries of origin and destination to understand as they develop migration and development strategies during the economic crisis and well after. In most countries, Gallup's data show people's desire to relocate to another country permanently did not decrease meaningfully after the global economic crisis hit in 2008.

Survey Methods

Results are based on aggregated telephone and face-to-face interviews with 259,542 adults, aged 15 and older, in 135 countries from 2007 to 2009. Results are based on aggregated telephone and face-to-face interviews with 259,542 adults, aged 15 and older, in 135 countries from 2007 to 2009. The 135 countries surveyed represent 93% of the world's adult population.

For most countries, aggregated sample sizes (across three years of surveys) range between 1,000 and 3,000 interviews. One can say with 95% confidence that the country-level margin of sampling error, accounting for weighting and sample design, ranges from ±3 percentage points to ±6 percentage points. Results are projected to the total population of each country aged 15 and older, using 2008 World Bank population estimates.

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2009-11-4 03:23 PM

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Interesting, interesting ...

the funny thing about this is, that people want to switch countries in a horizontal manner, which most will never make it in their livetime.

In the end we all switch our country in a vertical manner, by taking our rest underground.

Of course some will go to heaven, too (like me).

Hohohohoho

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2009-11-4 03:35 PM

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I am waiting for the one who calls me again "childish provocateur!".

Hihihihi

2009-11-4 03:36 PM

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Wow, so many people want to got to Canada.
I find that amusing because I would rather be here in the PRC

2009-11-4 03:38 PM

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i think most of them are rich unhappy chinese la

2009-11-4 03:47 PM

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What is also remarkable is the low number of Asians who have the desire to switch the country. Among all Asians surveyed only 10% want to leave their home countries.

2009-11-4 03:53 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-4 15:53
What is also remarkable is the low number of Asians who have the desire to switch the country. Among all Asians surveyed only 10% want to leave their home countries.

I have my doubts.

They have asked those who stayed back in their respective countries.

They did not asked those who have migrated already.

There is a vast number of Chinese (and Filipinos) who have migrated to almost any place in the world by the millions.

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2009-11-4 03:58 PM

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so ASIA is the best..........................of all la

ps : on Asia, sinkapooreans are fond of migrating

2009-11-4 03:59 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by caringhk at 2009-11-4 16:59
so ASIA is the best..........................of all la

ps : on Asia, sinkapooreans are fond of migrating

Wrong again. People see Singapore as Asia's most favorable immigration destination. If Singapore would permit all who wish to go there the population would rise to 13 million.

2009-11-4 04:10 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by harmless at 2009-11-4 16:58

There is a vast number of Chinese (and Filipinos) who have migrated to almost any place in the world by the millions

This survey was conducted over a period of two years - from 2007 until recently. The margin of error is between +- 3 and +-6%.

Migrants of past decades don't count. It is more a reflection of present times. Don't forget that the standard of living in East Asia has increased dramatically, not only in China but in Thai, Vietnam and other countries as well.

2009-11-4 04:14 PM

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QUOTE:

Perhaps the key word in the question is "permanently".
I don't know about other countries in Asia (Or the world) but the Chinese seem irrevocably tied to the motherland.
It is a huge part of their identity and how they see themselves.
They may want to be elsewhere to take advantage of opportunities that are not as easily available here.
Transfer those monies back to their families and eventually return.

However, having said that there are huge numbers of Asians not living in their home countries and most do not return.
I wonder how many more would join them if the most popular destinations would simply open their doors.
I had some experience some time ago preparing Chinese students for study in Australia. (IELTS PREP)
It amazed me how many were not going for study but for the chance to "settle".
And they expressed their desire to bring their families once they were able to do so.

I am always leery of statistics.
They are often self-serving and many do not answer truthfully for a number of reasons.
I am not saying that is the case here but it is something to be considered.

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2009-11-4 04:15 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-4 16:10

Wrong again. People see Singapore as Asia's most favorable immigration destination. If Singapore would permit all who wish to go there the population would rise to 13 million.

this is due to sinkaporeans running away

so the gov got no choice

but to hire gweilos labourers

to help run the country

2009-11-4 04:21 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by wowzers at 2009-11-4 16:15

Perhaps the key word in the question is "permanently".
I don't know about other countries in Asia (Or the world) but the Chinese seem irrevocably tied to the motherland.
It is a hug ...

when HK returns to China, million ranaway esp. to kanada,Sinkapoor,etc la

some to UK for the ID card la

2009-11-4 04:22 PM

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if you ask me now,

i wld like to retrun to China

& settle there my retirement

with ganjiang sweetie la

2009-11-4 04:23 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by wowzers at 2009-11-4 17:15

am always leery of statistics

Somebody once said -not sure who it was - I only trust stats that I persoanlly forged.

On the other hand Gallup has a high reputation and the fact that they mentioned a possible error factor of upto 6% guarantees that by and large the figures are correct, or so I believe.

2009-11-4 04:29 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by caringhk at 2009-11-4 17:21

this is due to sinkaporeans running away

so the gov got no choice

but to hire gweilos labourers

to help run the country

Hmm, difficulties with the stats?

2009-11-4 04:31 PM

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how many Asians did they ask and were they volume rated or country rate. India and China represent 2/3 of Asian population but this survey also includes Australia as Asian.

I also found it interesting that they combined north and south america, when in fact it seems most south Americans want to move to north America.

The biggest question is: what do you do with all these people who want to go so bad they will do so illegally? It becomes very expensive to search out these people, detain them and then deport them without infringing on their human rights. In many cases it is hard to determine where they even came from so it is hard to deport them.

2009-11-4 04:32 PM

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pls tell me who will not switch if they can get $10 a day

instead of $1 a day

2009-11-4 04:34 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2009-11-4 16:31

Hmm, difficulties with the stats?

nope

as far as i know, out of 4 millions sinkapooreans,

1 millions + are foreigners

including ~0'3 million malai

2009-11-4 04:37 PM

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QUOTE:

Originally posted by Exergy at 2009-11-4 16:32

how many Asians did they ask and were they volume rated or country rate. India and China represent 2/3 of Asian population but this survey also includes Australia as Asian.

I also found ...

Good point, how were these weighted?
Take North America for example, I am sure you would find a huge difference between Mexico and the USA.

2009-11-4 04:39 PM

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