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Post time 2013-1-24 03:45:25 |Display all floors
Meanwhile, a "stop shop" trend is currently sweeping across Norway, fed up with all the decades worth of junk they've collected at the expense of third world underpaid workers. It's becoming so popular in fact that Norway might actually hit a self-inflicted recession this year, simply because consumers refuses to shop any more.
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Post time 2013-1-24 05:30:16 |Display all floors
This post was edited by safaribehn at 2013-1-23 22:34
seneca Post time: 2013-1-22 08:29
I submit that these countries:
... are ranked as the world's "happist nations" not because - as the OP insinuates - because they are, he perceives: "borderline socialist states" but for the following reasons:

- All of them have relatively small populations (no football stampedes due to nationalist fervour);

The Netherlands has the highest population density in Europe. It might not seems as high when perceived as stats on the screen, but seen as a region it is as cramped as it gets. I don't think larger, densely populated countries are destined to be miserable, but if so, they should decentralize or separate. Much more cost efficient to offer good social services to everyone where many people live, than where they are scattered about.
.- all of them are relatively healthy, with a reasonable distribution of wealth among the people;

And why is that? Because we are borderline socialistic, and so should all. Especially those who claim to be Communistic, such as China, which is a lie.
.- all of them are harmonious and peaceful, with no conflicts with neighbours or domestically;

Can't argue on that, but we do have our moments. Luckily, otherwise it could get too boring.
.- none of them treats minorities badly;

True. Although I think Norway mistreat it's asylum seekers due unreasonable amount of suspicion, and way too long processing, which drags on for years, while they're stuck in prison-like accommodations. No, worse than prison, as prisons are quite nice in Norway.
.- none of them maintains a huge standing army;

I think that is more circumstantial. If indeed there was a reason to have them, then it would be a reason for concern if we didn't. Similarly, it would be a reason for concern if we did have them, considering that we don't need them. And it's only reasonable that the countries who do need them are less happy than the ones who don't.
.- none of them has territorial disputes with other states.

I think it's more the way we deal with our border issues. Norway had border issues with Russia which weren't resolved until 2008 (I think), and there really never was any sense of urgency, or inappropriate displays of power. Japan and China could probably learn a thing or two, if only China would talk to Norway, that is
.- and most of them had to fight for their independence from other countries!

I doubt that has much bearing, as it all peripheral in our collective conscience, and has no applicable impact on our day to day lives. Very few today lived through Nazi occupation, and certainly no one in living memory had to fight for any independence. Peace is almost a given at the present, and I think that is all that truly matters. Of course people who have way to much spare time are inventing coming conflicts in the future, and are playing them out in their own imagination. Should cut those people's welfare, so that they would be forced to do something more worth while with their lives...
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Post time 2013-1-24 08:42:50 |Display all floors
safaribehn Post time: 2013-1-24 05:30
The Netherlands has the highest population density in Europe. It might not seems as high when perc ...

mhh, just read all too recently about swedish abuses with transgenders being forced into "voluntary" sterelisation.
Plus small details like the size of the TV screens in prisons as Halden being prearanged and thus fixed, whilst German Prisoners choose their own Sets, also Breivik recently  put forward a complain about his Computer he was suppled in Prison ebing removed from him.
Swedish Police as another Example stands out with use of Firearms Violence,
with Gun shots more than every week, around double the total of Germany, which is the biggest country in Europe,
and that number of 2011 standing in stark contrast to the one single Gunshot of Norwegian Police in the whole of the Year 2011.

One easily ignores to notice that scandi countries rank among the HIGHEST in terms of economic freedom, so much for borderline socialist.
Netherlands and Switzerland aren't necessarily more socialist than Germany, which isn't, either, IMHO.
Dutch for example are underinsured in coperison to the larger Neighbours, some common in Germany even off limits to them.
Such as Flood Insurances.

The experiences of struggle for Independence may not be any more in direct living memory,
but they still influence the cultures.

While the explaination of Seneca might have some gaps and deviations of individual countries from them,
it does give much valid explaination.
Much completely unlike the ridiculous cr4ppy, single causalistic (such things never are single causalistic!!!) one of the biased simple minded propagandist f00lish Mind that is the OP's.


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Post time 2013-1-24 09:24:36 |Display all floors
LCSULLA Post time: 2013-1-24 01:42
mhh, just read all too recently about swedish abuses with transgenders being forced into "voluntar ...

True. Scandinavian countries have become much more market oriented since the late 80', mostly to great advantage I think. Things are definitely more flexible than it used to be, although I am too young to remember.

Most important to me though is the abundance of civil liberties, and I don't really mind the friction between the various sorts of odd, so long as it does not get hostile. Economic model comes second, but I do think all states should strive to provide their citizens as equal opportunities as possible, and that emerging nations such as China and Brasil could do much more in that respect already. You don't have to wait for the nation to get rich and fat in order to provide free higher education and basic health care to the citizens.
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This post was edited by LCSULLA at 2013-1-24 09:43
safaribehn Post time: 2013-1-24 09:24
True. Scandinavian countries have become much more market oriented since the late 80', mostly to g ...

True dat.
Germany started up building up a social system albeit first rudimentary,
in imperial times while still catching up with britain.
As the first Nation to do so.
Civil liberties are at the core, right.
economic liberties are just the other side of the same thing though.
I'd consider the idea that any scandi country were to collapse without the social system as ridiculous though.
Although I'd value them still.
But I guess Esstonia as another of the Nordics does not have yet all that welfare and still does go in a similar direction.
And they have been at the top field of economic liberties also before those reforms.

Brazilians (some at least) already do see Scandinavia as the modell to follow, rather than China.
Which I see as a good idea, generally.

Are you Norwegian?
Any Comment on Breivik now being denied his private Prison Computer,
and his complaint on that ground, and that stuff?

Last but not least,
not being a scandi myself,
I'd rather have it tasting like some good meat,
and the latte being Earl Grey instead.
Bork.


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Post time 2013-1-24 14:45:57 |Display all floors
TheHermit Post time: 2013-1-23 22:59
I agree with Eudemonia here..... and you sir are talking through your backside.

The western med ...

The income tax revenue as a perecentage of GDP is half that of the EU average . I'm not sure what statistics your using but hthe average Greek pays the barest minimum of taxes. It's easy to blame the bankers but the average greek person isn't pulling their weight either.
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Post time 2013-1-24 14:56:15 |Display all floors
Eudaimonia Post time: 2013-1-22 19:39
Yeah, that's propaganda bullshit, official EU statistics show the exact opposite. That we pay too m ...

Those statistics are misleading. If you take out part time
work, Greece is near the bottom of hours worked. The Greek young employment is is around 40bpercent so other countries have more people working but many are young working part time unlike Greece. If you look at productivity for each hour Greeks are low as well, while countries like Germany are high. Greeks need to fix their work culture, pay taxes and stop blaming others.
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