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Post time 2011-5-27 16:51:16 |Display all floors

Okay, there we have it - more additional data

Jiangsu, Zhejiang and Guangdong probably uses most of the electricity in China.

We are talking about 300giga equivalent capacity in just 3 provinces!
Jiangsu, without doubt is mostly in FERRO and NON FERROUS metal production activity.
They are the beneficiary of the huge Aussie, Indian, Brazil export of iron ore, and non ferrous ores.

Zhejiang, and Guangdong are beneficiary of the huge manufacturing industry.
(I am surprise Shangdong is not included in the China Daily report!)

3 provinces out of 27, with population of only 15% uses up to 40% of the generated electricity!

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Post time 2011-5-27 17:05:18 |Display all floors

The problem is in Hunan, Hubei, Jiangxi, probably Anhui provinces.

They probably DRAIN their lake side water for HYDROELECTRICITY, while the 3 Gorge withold water from them, also for ELECTRICITY GENERATING $$$$$. These provinces obviously cannot afford to buy "electricity" from Sichuan, Shanxi, Shaanxi, or Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang!

Draining of water from the LAKES, reduces "evaporation" of water, lowers the RH of these provinces.
Without water vapour, YOU CANNOT HAVE RAIN - so they report DROUGHT.

We might have to negotiate (subject to comfirmation from our MASTER SCIENTIST - Mr. Wong Guo Sheng, Chief Director of the Yangtze River Authority). To increase RAIN MAKING in Hunan, Hubei, Jiangxi, probably Anhui (coastal province get their rain from convection with the SEA) - certain RH level must be maintain, with COOLING hillsides to cause precipitations!

I forgot exactly the RH -TEMPERATURE curves in physics class. Long time since university days!
(AT lower hill side temperatures -so hillside activity is very vitally monitored, we need less RH to create rains!)

Somehow, Guangdong, Zhejiang and most of all Jiangsu must support the FOOD PRODUCING provinces of China. Thisis VITAL commodity. We must not PENALIZED these province and then also rely on them for our GRAIN, FISH and MEAT.

So, MY SUGGESTED SOLUTION is
(1) Guangdong, Zhejiang, Jiangsu - INVEST in local KINETIC STORING reservoir - NOBODY will be happy - it cost additional MONEY $$$$ - BUT should be cheaper than building more power plants.
(2) 3-gorge can operate at maximum capacity during low load months, while HUNAN, HUBEI, JIANGXI and ANHUI has to work out their best COST/BENEFIT equation of hydroelectric production for their own provincial use or LOSE the rain from lack of RH over their respective VALLEY or BASINS.

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Post time 2011-5-27 17:06:54 |Display all floors

Master Scientist, Director Wong Gua Sheng

........now has a FULL PLATE in the negotiations between the provinces. Those of WET LANDS, LAKES in Central Inland provinces, the energy producers of HYDRO, COAL as we encourage ENERGY INTENSIVE use provinces to store electricity.

This will allow for 3-gorge Reservoir to continue water flow in the dry season, and INLAND CENTRAL PROVINCES needs to reduce water drainage - to recover their lakeside RAINS.

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Post time 2011-5-30 12:13:30 |Display all floors

How do we persuade Hunan, Hubei, Jiangxi, Anhui

..........not to DRAIN their WET LAND, lake water.

In the meantime, we continue to study the Hill sides - how to plant more productive, valuable crops which requires less manual work!

The difference between manual hill side rice farming (probably Rmb2,600 a year), and entry level wages + regular migrant worker's wages (now Rmb12,000 to Rmb 24,000 a year in Inland Province, and coastal Provinces WOULD probably create the push for urbanization via the migrant worker!

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Post time 2011-5-30 13:54:20 |Display all floors
Do you know "San Men Xia" dam?

Do you know "Ban Qiao" dam?

We need to learn from these diasters caused by man-made projects as we are proposing the next huge projects.
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Post time 2011-5-30 14:22:03 |Display all floors

Reply #18 greendragon's post

We don't want abandoned TERRACE RICE FIELDS in Guangxi, Guizhou, Yunnan, Hunan, Jiangxi in the future!

It's obvious that we will empty the population in the hill agriculture districts with urbanization in Southwest and South Central Inland provinces. Otherwise they become migrant workers in the coastal provinces or in the developing Super centres!

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Post time 2011-5-30 14:36:06 |Display all floors

Reply #19 468259058's post

Henan has two crisis.

Hmmmm

fine tuning, and massive impact study needed.
so, we do need massive installation of "sensors", "earth movement monitoring" - predict earthquakes, "maintenance of the reservoir, sluice gates", monitor "RH levels", and hill "temperature".

Massive work needed.

Master scientist Director Wong Guo Sheng, must be very stressed now!
Not only "political negotiation", but increase "scientific capability" needed.
How do you persuade Hunan, Hubei, Jiangxi, Anhui to produce less from hydroelectricity and pay Chongqing/Shanxi/Shaanxi for electricity.

(Maybe our discussion in China Daily will help Master Scientist Wong Guo Sheng in his "Difficult" work!)

It's easier for Guangdong, Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shanghai, Beijing/Tianjin to pay for the imported electricity or maybe store water for it's kinetic energy!

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