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Post time 2006-5-30 07:59:05 |Display all floors

Anglos are diplomatic?

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Post time 2006-5-30 08:14:20 |Display all floors

What a COMPLETE LOAD OF CRAP

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Post time 2006-5-30 10:34:01 |Display all floors
And what--China is perfect in every way?

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Post time 2006-5-30 10:41:38 |Display all floors

Nope, China is not Perfect

But as a guest, why is it your place to criticize the gracious host?  Why is it Western China bashers' wont toyear in and year out criticize everything that the Chinese do, and call for thwarting the wish of China and the Chinese to develop peacefully?

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Post time 2006-5-30 11:19:06 |Display all floors
Why do we criticize China? Well... maybe it's because many visitors are from modernized countries. We're used to seeing things done a certain way. We know China's economy has gone through the roof, and we know it's a country that's developing quickly. Nothing wrong with that. However, when it says it wants to "develop peacefully," we see things that make us go "Huh? That's not how our home countries do it..." China should develop in its own style, but some things should not be tolerated in modernized countries. For example, extreme censorship of the media. You may say this isn't a problem, but on the outside, we can look in through our reporters (who have much more freedom), who tell us about the crazy things going on. Like during the winter, when there was an explosion at a power plant up in Heilongjiang that poisoned a river that provided cities below with water. The media and local officials reported nothing for quite some time, and some residents said they first found out about the explosion from a news show from Shanghai. That's not acceptable in a country that says it's modernizing.

That might be one reason. Also, though, you must remember, many do not criticize China, or don't do it much. Foreigners are fully capable of living happily there, and many do.

Why do you criticize the US so much? This country brought you the English you're using today. Why do forumites insist on bashing their teacher so much? If you're going to compare China to a gracious host, then the US, which brings you language, trends, and new ideas, is a gracious teacher. A teacher can be fairly criticized, as can a host, if it's done with a balanced mind, but sweeping generalizations don't do anyone any good.

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Post time 2006-5-30 11:34:11 |Display all floors

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So Sockmonkey, this "freedom of speech" thing works only one way, eh?  I have never personally started a thread criticizing anyone, as far as I can remember.  I do comparisons only when the Westerners start bashing China. The formula is simple - you say China is deficient in this and that, I am merely pointing out the obvious - that in the scheme of things, while China is no paradise, China ain't so bad either.  You cannot discuss right or wrong in a vacuum.

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Post time 2006-5-30 22:44:49 |Display all floors
The problem, tongluren, is that your definition of "bash" is far too loose. When iluv2fish started a thread about liver cancer being the #1 cause of death in China, you attacked and started talking about STDs in the US. Pointing out a disease as a major problem in a country isn't "bashing," it's stating a fact. However, you somehow found this offensive and went on about STDs. Why? Why didn't you simply offer an opinion on why liver cancer might be such a big problem? It seems to me that for you, "bash" is what someone does whenever they mention an imperfection in China, and that's hardly a fair perspective to take.

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