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zhihu1 Post time: 2018-3-28 09:03
Why can't I quote former German President's word to support my viewpoint, if I consider some words o ...

Confusing riposte. Very confusing.

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seneca Post time: 2018-3-29 00:32
Confusing riposte. Very confusing.

Which parts or words make you failed to understand? I'm always happy to help you out. Please feel free to consult me.

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Post time 2018-3-29 12:02:43 |Display all floors
zhihu1 Post time: 2018-3-29 07:31
Which parts or words make you failed to understand? I'm always happy to help you out. Please feel  ...

You don't seem to understand how to refute someone's views. You think I must buy into your belief that one out of dozens of German ministers-of-this or ministers-of-that have supported YOUR belief that China was "ahead of the Europeans" at some time in history.

Do you know there are many other Germans who are
a) not a minister or the chancellor
b) but have more competent views than all of the ministers and all the cancellors the Federal Republic has  had?

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seneca Post time: 2018-3-29 12:02
You don't seem to understand how to refute someone's views. You think I must buy into your belief  ...

You don't seem to understand how to refute someone's views. You think I must buy into your belief that one out of dozens of German ministers-of-this or ministers-of-that have supported YOUR belief that China was "ahead of the Europeans" at some time in history.

Do you know there are many other Germans who are
a) not a minister or the chancellor
b) but have more competent views than all of the ministers and all the cancellors the Federal Republic has  had?


It's you who claim you get confused. I'm ready and happy to help you out.

I don't think you must buy my belief. How could you read people's mind and falsify the words I don't think and don't say?  Don't do that to me anymore. You will be embarrassing when I confront you if so. I present the facts- the former German President admitted China was way ahead of Western history when he delivered his speech in Tongj University, China.

I never ever talked about any other German ministers, chancellors, but FORMER GERMAN PRESIDENT. Do you understand what I am talking about?




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Post time 2018-3-29 12:26:41 |Display all floors
zhihu1 Post time: 2018-3-29 12:09
You don't seem to understand how to refute someone's views. You think I must buy into your belief t ...



Let me see how I can help YOU talk to me in a more intelligent way:

...when I confront you if so. I present the facts- the former German President admitted China was way ahead of Western history when he delivered his speech in Tongj University, China.


OK, I was WRONG to mention "German ministers" and "German chancellors". It's Germany's President that matters to you, and his or her views on China, right?

Well, you haven't made your position much better thus far. As a Westerner, I don't much care whether a person's rank is that of being a "president" or just a "minister" - these are decorative art, not a hint to their education.

I know this is hard to understand for a Chinese but you can communicate in English pretty well and I take my hat off to you for this. Therefore I hope I can apprise you something that your Chinese schooling failed to do: In the West it doesn't matter if your father's name is Li Gang or that of anyone else; your education does. I know that Li Gang is not widely admired in China because he was a crooked policeman.

Now see where this leads to: If the elite that rules and manages your society is crooked such as was the case with Li Gang whose son hit a student girl on a university campus with his posh car and drove off without giving the victim of his erratic driving help), do you expect them to be reliable when it comes to knowledge on history?

I am not saying that any German president ever acted the way Li Gang's son did or Li Gang himself did.

Back to "the German president": I really, really only take such posts seriously if they contain a modicum of verifiable facts. For example the man's name and perhaps the context in which he placed his statement.

I bet he was not a historian or a sinologist. Many ordinary Germans are therefore more knowledgeable than he may be. And he would not be ashamed to admit that.

We do not worship the representatives of our countries. We abhor the cult of personality.  

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seneca Post time: 2018-3-28 20:26
Let me see how I can help YOU talk to me in a more intelligent way:

Your fawning obsequiousness toward your beloved western indoctrination is showing like neon.
As you were taught, only believe what you are instructed to believe and worship the oligarchs of the west.
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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Post time 2018-3-29 13:43:09 |Display all floors
robert237 Post time: 2018-3-29 13:29
Your fawning obsequiousness toward your beloved western indoctrination is showing like neon.
As yo ...

Booby,

why don't you write how you as the PARAGON among the new lower class U.S. Americans feel about your new-found position? Don't tell me you were always that poor...

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