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Yin_99 Post time: 2017-12-30 16:51
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Why are other countries dumping their crap on China?


80% of the world's consumer products are made in China. Perhaps the world is sending a message. If you start making reliable products, we won't have to ship your crap back to you.
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Jaaja Post time: 2017-12-30 19:23
If you have the choice between paying to take care of your own waste, or getting paid by having  ...
The western countries named in this thread and otherwise, typically have much tighter environmental regulations than China, which makes it less profitable (if at all) to use their own recycled waste. So they would have to pay to take care of it themselves. While in China, it becomes valuable asset worth shipping.

But even if in your typical western country it wouldn't be profitable to take care of the recycled waste, important detail here is that they do still recycle it. That's more than can be said about level of recycling in China - especially if you go to smaller cities.

I think the only way forward in this global picture is, that China improves its environmental regulations so that it becomes less pofitable for local businesses to import foreign waste, and start to handle China's  own waste better as well.

If in past it has been profitable to import foreign waste, then certaintly that has contributed to the GDP as well. This is only one aspect where China should value slower but more sustainable growth.
Imports of foreign waste has very little to do with environmental standards. It’s all about economics. Rich countries dump their waste on poor countries because the latter is paid to accept those waste. Because China is no longer a poor country, it can afford not to accept foreign waste which will be dumped on poor countries in Africa which will become the biggest dumping ground for Western waste in the future.

China does have a HUGE recycling sector for all kinds of waste — plastics, paper, metals, construction materials, rubber tires — which gets recycled into useful products. As China became richer, consumption has risen to the point that it’s generating its own waste plastics, paper and clothing which is enough to feed its own recycling industries.

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This post was edited by sfphoto at 2017-12-31 03:48
cmknight Post time: 2017-12-31 01:06
80% of the world's consumer products are made in China. Perhaps the world is sending a message. If ...

China is exporting way too much to Western markets. But this is changing as consumption rises in China which will be generating its own waste plastics and paper to feed its own recycling industries.

What will happen to those foreign waste which is now banned in China? It will get dumped into poor countries in Africa, Asia and Latin America.

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sfphoto Post time: 2017-12-31 03:47
China is exporting way too much to Western markets. But this is changing as consumption rises in Ch ...

You are bragging now about China replicating the West's profligate ways. Unfortunately, only the West has the wisdom to stop bad ways while China only has the mindset of a small child that wants to have the toys its older brothers and sisters have. China is not "recycling" waste appropriately, as we do in the West. It only has a select few types of recycling, and these are all money makers, not set up basically to keep the environment clean. Therein lies the big difference. There are even some Fortune 500 tycoons who got rich in China by recycling waste - and these folks started the importation of waste from foreign countries. So on one hand you simpletons celebrate the rising standard of living of a few rich cats who import foreign waste while domestically you pollute every place with  vengeance.

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Yin_99 Post time: 2017-12-30 10:23
How could this kind of poisnous crap being allowed to enter China?  This is the question interests m ...

A few Chinese businesspeople got extremely rich and the nation feted them as economic heroes. It is Chinese greed to buy stuff that earns them money one way or another. They kept buying paper, plastic, metals to extract in China and turn into new consumer goods. The West certainly did not push these exports on China.

Here is another problem area: what will happen to your mobile phone once you discard it? Do you return it to the factory or to a recycler? You probably just drop it into a rubbish bin.

In Europe this is FORBIDDEN. People pay a recycling fee when they buy a new appliance - fridge, airconditioner, cellphone, computer, whatever - and when they want to dispose of their appliance the city collects it or they can return it to the store where they bought it. But how does China deal with its electronic appliance waste?

How does it deal with used batteries?

Batteries contain dangerous heavy metals that can seriously pollute the environment, but I have never seen separate battery containers where people could dispose of their used ones. They probably all end up in ordinary household rubbish.

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cwdy Post time: 2017-12-30 09:18
Stop this right now!

Stop ewhat/

Stop the humongous waste by all consumers. Teach them to be more environmentally friendly. Make it mandatory for them to separate plastic waste from organic matter and so on. Stop the "more is better' consumerism.

Are Chinese citizens willing to pitch in so that their country becomes civilized and clean as a European country?

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