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Post time 2017-12-5 18:03:27 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-12-5 16:24
No, thats not my point.

We have now been talking of China's primary education system (OP is ear ...
China should prioritize commercial care service providers as part of building up service industry, to create jobs and tax revenues, and then use that to finance services for those who cannot use commercial services (either because they are too expensive, or not available in the location).

But why should the State "prioritize commercial for-profit service providers" when that's the job of the Market?  You keep making this Strawman argument about the State banning them when they are in fact allowed because they serve a niche market segment. The State should instead prioritize community-based non-profit service providers by funding, supporting and regulating the childcare industry. What that means is that there will be two systems of childcare providers: 1) State-funded non-profit community-based childcare providers; and 2) Capitalist-funded for-profit commercial childcare providers.

I rebutted your argument that the taxpayers who send their children to commercial for-profit childcare providers are being treated unfairly because their taxes go to State-funded non-profit childcare providers that they don't use by citing the taxpayers who send their children to commercial for-profit private-schools even though their taxes go to State-funded non-profit public schools that they don't use.

The rest of your post doesn't make sense at all.

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Post time 2017-12-5 20:19:48 |Display all floors
sfphoto Post time: 2017-12-5 18:03
But why should the State "prioritize commercial for-profit service providers" when that's the job ...
why should the State "prioritize commercial for-profit service providers" when that's the job of the Market?  You keep making this Strawman argument about the State banning them when they are in fact allowed because they serve a niche market segment. The State should instead prioritize community-based non-profit servic


Because it would be more cost-efficient for the state to have market take care of childcare, and instead focus state efforts to helping those really poor who would remain outside market.

The private childcare market needs to grow from a niche market to such volume, that it starts to auto-correct flaws (such as RYB Education has experienced) through market mechanisms. There have to be multiple proiders, and they have to be so big that customer opinions have a meaning for them. Volume and competition would also push prices down, so that more families can access those.

even though their taxes go to State-funded non-profit public schools that they don't use.
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I think that we discovered in last few poists, that even if Chinese tax-payers would choose for-profit schools, until September 2017 those schools were in fact (fake) non-profit schools. The state perhaps didn't directly fund them, but at least gave certain tax and land incentives that made those schools a little bit cheaper for those consumers. Certainly if these consumers didn't pay taxes for that part then the state would not have had to provide those incentives either. But they did, and state provided.

Thus, in matter of primary education it does (did) not matter that families paid taxes to fund public schools, because they benefited from that even if they used those so-called private schools.

Now that the regulations changed in September 2017, we will see how much this taxpayer issue, together with (or via) expected increase in private school prices, will move students from private schools to public schools.

The rest of your post doesn't make sense at all.


Maybe it's you? It starts to look like certain details you just don't want to discuss and use that as convenient way to avoid doing so.

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Post time 2017-12-7 05:03:10 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-12-5 20:19
Because it would be more cost-efficient for the state to have market take care of childcare, and ...
Maybe it's you? It starts to look like certain details you just don't want to discuss and use that as convenient way to avoid doing so.
No, it's you not me who keep arguing a moot point of whether the Market has succeeded in providing childcare services to Chinese families in China. So I'll end our little discussion at this point but suffice it to say that non-profit community-owned Social Enterprises does work if the right mechanisms are put in place such as the non-profit International Schools catering to foreign expats in China.

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