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TRUMP'S GAMBIT DECLINED - KIM REFUSED TO TAKE SOUTH KOREA. [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2017-11-19 16:27:38 |Display all floors
The lull is longer than expected.  At some point, the pawn will be taken, or it will be advanced.  Neither side wants a draw.  Both sides are playing for a win.  Lots of prayers needed badly.










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Post time 2017-11-19 18:49:39 |Display all floors
I wouldn't worry about it...
Like them bid foot ball games and horse games,

it's ALL re-arranged

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Post time 2017-11-20 14:04:26 |Display all floors
Newsweek article of 11/18/2017 quoted Japan Times article of same date saying "Japan Wants War With North Korea's Kim Jong Un, Not Dialogue, New Poll Shows".  

But Japan Times' article merely said, "According to the poll, 25.6 percent said they think Tokyo and Washington should give weight to the use of pressure against North Korea and 28.3 percent said they think so to some extent.  Meanwhile, 12.5 percent said they think the some form of dialogue should be used, and 26.9 percent said they were in accordance to some degree."

No mention of going to war with North Korea in the poll questions reported.  So, how can an answer be YES to war, when war was not even asked?  It is evident some folks want to put words in the mouths of the Japanese people, and push them into war with North Korea, or put the thought of going to war with Japan in the mind of the North Korean regime, based on a poll that did not even ask the Japanese people if they wanted to go to war with North Korea.  

What this "Poll" showed is that the pollsters wanted Japan to accept its role as that of going to war with North Korea, and North Korea to attack Japan because of this false threat.

Just only proves that South Korea has refused to be the gambit pawn, ready to be eaten alive or to be advanced into the jaws of the North Korean war machine, and therefore, there is an urgent need for Japan to prove its worthiness as an ally, and take the place of South Korea, a role that the Japanese had themselves pressured South Korea to accept.  In the game of musical chairs, Moon has sat down, and Abe is still dancing, but as the polls show, coming to a slow standstill, and about to take his seat soon.  There is panic polling therefore, to take the chair away from Abe before he sits.  But sit he will, on the floor if necessary, very shortly.

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Post time 2017-11-20 14:20:57 |Display all floors
Trump should not shoulder the blame if all he could achieve is a draw, because of the mistake of past administrations in believing that they have a won game, that time is on their side, and that the only possible outcome is the collapse of NK as its economy collapses from its isolation.  They dragged out their talks with NK in the hope that they will win by waiting.  It seems they did not foresee Kim's breakthroughs in his nuclear program, and now, on Trump's watch, he could only achieve a draw - denuclearization for normalization with peace guarantees - but even such offers may no longer be enough, because of the Libya precedent.  Thus, Trump would be very lucky if he could get a draw, except he believes he can and should win.  Of course, he knows more than anyone else what is going on.  And he might be right, but there is no indication from any pundit remarks that he really is right.  Trying to win a drawn game is heroic, but often results in losing it, very nearly so at this point, indeed.

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Post time 2017-11-20 15:18:00 |Display all floors
After some time and consideration, I see Trump as a maverick in the US political arena. Whereas the previous administrations were more concerned about political ideologies and popularity (generally speaking), which makes them subject to say and do things that are "politically correct", Trump is more concerned about the US deficit and the economic health of the US. In this aspect, I think he is doing the right thing. How can a country continue to grow in dept to the amount of trillions of US dollars and not be concerned? This is his main agenda for the US and the international policy. Based on this assumption, I believe the way he deals with the North Korea situation will be tied to his main agenda.

His decisions will be based on how the US can benefit economically, war or no war. Seeing that war cannot benefit any country economically, I think Trump is not in favour of it. His tweets and outbursts are characteristics of his personality, nothing more. However, the US has lots of people from the previous administrations who are ideologically motivated and will do their best to oppose him and that is his big problem he has to deal with domestically. I do not think he will succumb to them because he is quite obstinate but the political system of US is such that the senate and the judiciary system can check and oppose his policies. If he can persuade the US and the people to his side, there is likely no war (ceteris peribus). If he cannot, we can only hope for a miracle.

I believe North Korea is not blind but also play acting according to the situation. What is clear is that NK wants to talk terms without concessions that hinders its international presence. NK does not want foreign influence.

War or no war remains to be seen but will not be immediate.

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Post time 2017-11-25 19:58:02 |Display all floors
This post was edited by sfphoto at 2017-11-26 03:07
abcfirst Post time: 2017-11-20 14:04
Newsweek article of 11/18/2017 quoted Japan Times article of same date saying "Japan Wants War With  ...
Just only proves that South Korea has refused to be the gambit pawn, ready to be eaten alive or to be advanced into the jaws of the North Korean war machine, and therefore, there is an urgent need for Japan to prove its worthiness as an ally, and take the place of South Korea, a role that the Japanese had themselves pressured South Korea to accept.  In the game of musical chairs, Moon has sat down, and Abe is still dancing, but as the polls show, coming to a slow standstill, and about to take his seat soon.  There is panic polling therefore, to take the chair away from Abe before he sits.  But sit he will, on the floor if necessary, very shortly.

That "fake news" item is quite perplexing because it was published to coincide with Trump's visit to Asia where he offered an olive branch to Kim who was supposed to test new missiles in response to Trump's earlier threat to "totally destroy" North Korea but unexpectedly didn't. As Moon has already declared that South Korea would not allow the U.S.A. to start a war against North Korea without its consent nor would South Korea develop, acquire and station nuclear weapons on its soil, Trump had no choice but to back down on his military threats against North Korea.

That poll is definitely "fake news" because Japan is not capable of starting a "war" against North Korea as its Constitution prohibits the deployment of its military for offensive purposes. In other words, that "fake news" item was meant to create the impression that the U.S.A still had some kind of military option over North Korea which does not exist due to South Korea's opposition to any military action against North Korea.






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Post time 2017-12-2 18:52:32 |Display all floors
sfphoto Post time: 2017-11-25 19:58
That "fake news" item is quite perplexing because it was published to coincide with Trump's visit  ...

Fake News are quite instructive for those like you who are aware of their existence.  This particular fake news about the majority of the Japanese people not wanting any more dialogue with North Korea and insisting on their government going to war is very informative.  The Newsweek article obviously passed through its fairly strict and selective editorial approval process, and thus reflects the WISHES of the editorial board, and thus, of the management or major stakeholders, even if they deny it.  Now, this IS important, if we are to understand why the same group of people want Trump out of office.  Trump is threatening North Korea in jest, and it is not working.  They want Trump to DO IT.  Uhuh, uhuh, that's the way they like it -- do it!  But Trump will not, as he has promised in his campaign, he really does not want another war, and his detractors, posturing as peaceniks, actually want instant war.

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