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Police officers in England and Wales are to be asked whether they want to routinely carry a gun. The Police Federation, which represents 123,000 rank and file officers across will begin surveying its members next week.

Police have grown increasingly concerned about threats to their safety from assaults as they perform their regular duties and the high likelihood of terrorist attack which unarmed officers are likely to be first to respond to.

The survey will ask officers whether they think they or more of their colleagues should carry Taser electrical weapons, whether there should be more specialist armed officers and whether they themselves want to carry a gun as they patrol the streets.

It is the first national survey asking officers if they want to carry a gun since 2006. Che Donald, the federation’s lead on firearms, said of the survey: “Given the current climate, we feel it’s time to seek the views of our members again.

“Policing has changed significantly over recent years, not just around the types of crime we are dealing with and greater use of technology, but also the threat, harm and risk to the public and to officers themselves.

“This survey seeks to determine our members’ views to inform our position on the issue of routine arming.”

There is increasing support within policing for officers in England and Wales to be defensively armed, for their own protection, in the same way their colleagues in Northern Ireland are.

Britain’s police are largely unarmed and officers need to volunteer to carry a gun. Five per cent of all police are armed, according to Home Office figures, out of a total of 125,851 officers in England and Wales.

Last month the Guardian revealed that Simon Chesterman, the national lead for armed policing, had written a paper discussing the possibility of offering every frontline officer in England and Wales a gun to counter the threat of a marauding terrorist attack.

The federation policy on Taser weapons is that every officer who wants one should be allowed to carry one.

A recent survey of London police officers by the Metropolitan Police Federation found that just over half said they would carry a gun routinely if asked to do so. One in 10 said they would quit rather than carry a firearm.

Police outside of the capital are concerned because they have fewer guns than those in London and fear they might struggle get enough armed officers quickly enough to the scene of a terrorist attack.

Government figures show the number of armed operations – that is, where police carry a gun – was up 7% last year compared with the previous year, reaching 15,705. In those, police opened fire 10 times, up from seven times the previous year. Nationally, gun crime is rising.

Ministers and police chiefs have been trying to increase the number of specially trained armed officers since the carnage caused by a marauding terrorist firearms attack was shown by the November 2015 attack on Paris which left 130 people dead.

The latest figures show an increase in armed officers of 11% to 6,278, compared with the previous year. Labour said the number was lower than before the Conservatives took power in 2010.

Labour’s Louise Haigh, the shadow policing minister, said: “These troubling new statistics show that forces across the country are being left exposed by the government’s continuing failure to ensure they are at full strength.

“Armed officer numbers are down 10% on 2010 and, given the unprecedented nature of the terrorist threat, it is incomprehensible that last year alone we saw forces nationwide still losing armed officers.

“Incredibly, forces such as Merseyside police saw their numbers fall by a shocking 12% despite the challenges they face in tackling gun crime and countering the threat of terrorism.”

On Wednesday police in Birmingham shot a man in an incident now being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. The man is being treated in hospital and is believed to have been shot in the chest.

David Jamieson, the police and crime commissioner for the West Midlands said: “An incident like this is extremely rare in the West Midlands and, as such, I will be monitoring the situation closely. This is the first time West Midlands police has shot someone since 2000.”

Government figures released on Thursday showed the West Midlands area had the biggest increase last year in armed police operations of any area in England and Wales. The Home Office said: “The West Midlands region experienced the largest increase in the number of police firearms operations between the year ending 31 March 2016 and 31 March 2017, with a rise of 626 (41%) firearms operations


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Post time 2017-8-3 18:27:35 |Display all floors
A trial period was done in Newcastle not so long ago, and folk gave a very positive feedback saying it made them feel safer. N'cle isn't a particular dangerous city, but other parts of the uk officers should carry a gun yes,,
if you want something in life get off your backside, and do it yourself!! don't rely on others to do it for you

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parcher Post time: 2017-8-3 18:27
A trial period was done in Newcastle not so long ago, and folk gave a very positive feedback saying  ...

I would have declined as I think I would have been trigger happy

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This post was edited by parcher at 2017-8-19 08:54
1584austin Post time: 2017-8-19 00:40
I would have declined as I think I would have been trigger happy

lol not surprised
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parcher Post time: 2017-8-19 08:40
lol not surprised

Same as at school matey, get the first punch in when you know it's going to happen

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1584austin Post time: 2017-8-19 14:08
Same as at school matey, get the first punch in when you know it's going to happen

i witnessed my mates having a scrap in a bar as i was playing the fruit machine
the next day i was asked to give a statement. When i arrived they arrested me and charged me as well..
i got off though, when i wrote a letter to the prosecution telling them if i have to attend court, i will lose my job in Germany. Good advice from my lawyer
that was the only scrap i was or was not involved in....
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Predictably the more police we have on the streets casually armed with guns then the more civilians are likely to be shot for the wrong reasons. Even now we have highly trained (we hope) armed police who end up under investigation for shooting unarmed thugs.
(mostly harmless)

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