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China has to moral responsibility to restore the nation of Sikkim,   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2017-7-25 09:49:41 |Display all floors
Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-24 13:04
Lots of so called "invasions" from both sides in the past. So who's right? Are you solely supportin ...



I do think you are overlooking the fact that China has OFFICIALLY repudiated the MacMahon Line which defines the boundary between Tibet and its neighbours to the south.

That is the STICKING POINT.

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Post time 2017-7-25 10:29:21 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2017-7-25 09:49
I do think you are overlooking the fact that China has OFFICIALLY repudiated the MacMahon Line w ...

Do you think China had ever recognised the MacMahon Line? What makes the line valid?

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Post time 2017-7-25 10:49:38 |Display all floors
Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-25 10:29
Do you think China had ever recognised the MacMahon Line? What makes the line valid?



And what right had China in those days to deem it illegitimate? China was not a legitimate ruler over Tibet, so if Tibet and the British agreed on that line then what business was it of China's to comment on it?

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Post time 2017-7-25 13:03:49 |Display all floors
BHUTAN should stay out of the Doklam dispute, as it had previously come to an understanding with China about the validity of China's right to build a road into Doklam.  It is India which insists on making the construction of a road by China in Doklam a point of conflict and contention, by pretending it is intervening militarily at the behest of Bhutan.  Bhutan seems to have acquiesced to India's pretensions, fearing to offend a country that also pretends, by the way, to be its guardian and defender, rather than the exploiter of its strategic position, for its own security, at the expense of Bhutan's security.

Indian intervention in Doklam in the name of Bhutan constitutes a grave and serious risk for the security and sovereignty of Bhutan itself as a whole.  Because, if India were to wound or kill a single Chinese soldier, in the name of Bhutan, as its proxy (instead of in actuality as its master), Bhutan would automatically be considered, technically speaking, to be at war with China.  And since China has never accepted the independence or sovereignty of Bhutan, which was originally a part of Tibet, which is a part of China, and thus should belong to China, China can legally, without contradicting its constitution and its international treaties, retake Bhutan as an act of national self-defense, which will be catastrophic for Bhutan, and end its monarchy permanently, as by the same rationale, China cannot give it up, it being a part of China, not just de jure, but also by then, de facto as well.

The best way out for Bhutan is to "disinvite" Indian troops from "its territory" which does not in any way negate China's potential claim to the same territory, since Bhutan belongs to Tibet, and Tibet belongs to China.  Once this is accomplished, the negotiations will thence be confined to Bhutan and China, and not involve India, which makes a settlement much easier to arrive at, to implement, and if necessary in the future, to modify.

First, Bhutan should diplomatically boot out the Indian army back to India, which never had any claims on Doklam (Donglang, in Chinese).

Second, Bhutan should diplomatically negotiate with China about the resolution of China's claim to and right to build on Donklam, which in fact, was NOT a problem with Bhutan, until India insisted to Bhutan that it had to object, in order for India to have a pretext to occupy Doklam, a strategic area that China, rather than India, has a valid claim on.

If the above sequence is not adopted, Bhutan will end up being sacrificed by India as its cannon fodder, in a futile war to win against China on Chinese soil, a feat not even the Imperial Japanese Army, two million strong, could achieve with far greater arms and far better trained troops.



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Post time 2017-7-25 13:26:01 |Display all floors
A military conflict between Bhutan and China can be regarded as a rebellion, requiring only the border militia to respond to.  A military conflict between Indian troops and Chinese soldiers in Doklam will be regarded as an INVASION, and will require the concentrated response of the entire armed forces of China.  Bhutan can only gain its security and its salvation by telling the Indian army to go home, while conversely, it can only jump from the frying pan into the fire by allowing Indian troops remain in Doklam.

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Post time 2017-7-25 13:47:07 |Display all floors
abcfirst Post time: 2017-7-25 13:26
A military conflict between Bhutan and China can be regarded as a rebellion, requiring only the bord ...

India in fact had built her own roads near the borderline.

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Post time 2017-7-25 16:10:47 |Display all floors
abcfirst Post time: 2017-7-25 10:03
BHUTAN should stay out of the Doklam dispute, as it had previously come to an understanding with Chi ...

It's very funny. PLA is not US army and Indian army is not Afghanistan army. Man to Man, Tank to Tank and Aircraft to Aircraft , we are ready to face the aggressor.

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