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Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-23 17:59
The point is the existing border is already recognised by both China and former Indian govts. Wot' ...



"China has old maps for the past 2000 yrs."?

Have you seen them?

Do you know the history of the Himalayas???

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seneca Post time: 2017-7-24 09:49
"China has old maps for the past 2000 yrs."?

Have you seen them?



If you knew the history then you would know that China has never made maps of that border. Tibet has never been part of China throughout the last 2000 years except as a colonial acquisition in recent time.

The first to invade Tibet were the Mongolians, but they first took China and then joined the two to their empire. The Chinese shook them off, as did the Tibetans. The next to join Tibet to their empire were the Manchus, and they were not popular with the Tibetans.

At no time did Chinese draw up maps of Tibet. The only sketches they can claim as "maps" were probably drawn up by some Tibetan warlord or a lama.

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Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-23 17:59
The point is the existing border is already recognised by both China and former Indian govts. Wot' ...



But it is China that has asked for modifications to the border, and it has gone to war with India three times in the last sixty years to drive home its point. There has been unhappiness on both sides of the border since China invaded Tibet.

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Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-23 13:56
Yes, India has the reasons and rights to be vigilant, but not in a way of intrusion into other's bo ...



But you know that you are fudging the borders of facts to some extent, do you? You say the INDIANS have invaded "China" when in fact China has invaded first Tibet and is now encroaching on BHUTAN; India is merely defending Bhutan at the request of the latter.

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seneca Post time: 2017-7-24 09:55
But you know that you are fudging the borders of facts to some extent, do you? You say the INDIA ...

If you think both sides have ridiculoues claims, then it seems violence is the only means to resolve them. So China is just waiting for India to fire the first bullet. If India had good reasons for her claims, let her fight for them.

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seneca Post time: 2017-7-24 09:55
But you know that you are fudging the borders of facts to some extent, do you? You say the INDIA ...

Lots of so called "invasions" from both sides in the past. So who's right? Are you solely supporting 1 side without seeing reasons for both sides? Just a super biased judgement against China?
The point sticks to wot China and Indian had accomplished on borderline recognition, this is the core. If you had to retalk about the bordreline, then you need to first overthrow any aggrements already arrived. The pity thing is that it's is not up to either side to abolish any agreements unilaterally.
The answer is clear that if India is to break any agreements unilaterally, violence is following.

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Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-24 13:04
Lots of so called "invasions" from both sides in the past. So who's right? Are you solely supportin ...



Yes, lots of invasions from either side. That is why independent Tibet was a guarantor for both India and CHina to live out of each other's harm.

But who changed the situation? China did. Now there is no buffer between expansionist China and India except along the borders with Nepal and Bhutan. Who is slowly consuming these two nations? China.

Why did the Chinese plan to build an extension of the railway from Lhasa to Nepal?

That is a THREAT to India as well. Tanks can then be rail-freighted within hours from Tibet to the Indian border...

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