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Post time 2017-7-22 13:15:42 |Display all floors
The PLA should transform itself into a leaner fighting force with multiple roles in national defense, homeland security, international peacekeeping, humanitarian missions, emergency response, disaster recovery, etc.

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Post time 2017-7-22 13:43:32 |Display all floors
_ET Post time: 2017-7-22 08:13
Nope.  Israel has best genes. China just living on borrowed time.  Should go extinct, like Denisov ...

If Israel had best gene, then it would be much better for China having no gene, lol. Take a look at how tiny Israel is.

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Post time 2017-7-22 13:54:22 |Display all floors
Graft and misuse of public funds, is what I think of the PLA. Also misnamed. It is army for the party, not for the people.

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Post time 2017-7-22 14:16:23 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-7-22 13:54
Graft and misuse of public funds, is what I think of the PLA. Also misnamed. It is army for the part ...

Which govt has no party?

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Post time 2017-7-22 14:38:07 |Display all floors
Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-22 14:16
Which govt has no party?

Difference is that most countries have many parties that share the political power.

For this to work, such country must have some entity which is above all those parties. Often that is a constitution or other legal structure.

Armies serve that above-parties entity, and so do the parties themselves - each with their own political focus. The army is therefore not subject to whims of random dictator or populist party.

In Finland for example, there is a separate entity, whose only purpose is to supervise that political decisions that the parties and their representatives make, follow the constitution to letter. When some political decision is made, it goes to that entity for review.

This is not case in China. China has constitution, but no mechanism to enforce it, so the constitution is useless.

It is same about graft and corruption. You don't have institutionalized mechanism to prevent it - despite China's advancements in cleaning corruption, it is still ruled by man, not by law.

Once the men in leadership change, who knows what the next guys will decide. Maybe PLA will go back to its old ways and make business by renting their premises to KTVs and bars.

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Post time 2017-7-22 15:16:36 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-7-22 14:38
Difference is that most countries have many parties that share the political power.

For this to w ...

Constitution is a good thing, however it's just too fragile. We cannot fully rely on constitution for a healthy political system. Look at ABE, the maniac can/could modify the constitution (eventhough going through procedures). And the west constitution(U.S.)  was unable to stop Bush in making unconstructive wars.
In idealogy, constitution secures a healthy political system, yet in reality it's not. As you mentioned, constitution is not being enforced in China, yet no wars were made by China in the past decades. It's time to value a political system based on reality, rather than ideology.

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Post time 2017-7-22 22:04:50 |Display all floors
Chinaman2017 Post time: 2017-7-22 15:16
Constitution is a good thing, however it's just too fragile. We cannot fully rely on constitution  ...
constitution is not being enforced in China, yet no wars were made by China in the past decades


Constitutions rarely define foreign policy of countries - the extent of that is usually in defining who decides on foreign policy. They are more like internal agreements within the nations, sort of like work contract between the state and it's citizens. Look at China's own constitution, it's exactly like that.

Bush's wars or China's lack of wars (I don't agree with that) have nothing to do with having or not having constitution, and should not be used to evaluate pros and cons of constitutions either way.

Especially since lack of enforced constitution would't help even that much, in any of the examples you provided.

To my knowledge, no country has a constitution that by its own merit leads to war, but many more wars would have been started already, if some countries didn't have constitutions or didn't abide by what they have.

We cannot fully rely on constitution for a healthy political system


I know that in China you ("we") cannot, because your political system is what it is. Elsewhere we can.

To get back on topic, this is why your army continues to serve the party, and not the people.

Meanwhile elsewhere the armies serve the constitutions and the people, not individual parties.

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