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Post time 2017-6-27 17:41:21 |Display all floors
The largest and most powerful ship to be built for the Royal Navy has left the Rosyth dock for the first time.
HMS Queen Elizabeth cost £3bn and will undertake sea trials over the summer.
Weighing 65,000 tonnes and measuring 280m long by 75m wide, it has the capacity to operate with 1,000 staff and 40 aircraft.




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Post time 2017-6-27 23:16:13 |Display all floors
Compare catobar carriers and non catobars is not appropriate. Fighter burn a lot of oil for take off from a non catobar carrier. Seems to be all beautiful toys, but efficiency is very different.

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Post time 2017-6-29 15:35:51 |Display all floors
CV-17, or the 001A which too was just launched are said to be of a wee heavier tonnage (70,000 plus tons) as oppose to 65,000 and claimed to have 48 aircrafts which is 8 better than the CV-16 and just as speedy de'gonzalas as the CV-17, surprisingly, this masterpiece too was laid only 5 years ago so HMS QE is not really that big of a deal guys. And, for the speed for which both of these boats had been banged together, my suspicion is that 3-D printing is a big part of ship buildung these days therefore alot more stuff where these boats are coming from so, aside from the cheering on of the QE, don't forget to cheer us on, too, will ya guys!!!  
Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2017-6-29 17:42:46 |Display all floors
edisonone Post time: 2017-6-29 15:35
CV-17, or the 001A which too was just launched are said to be of a wee heavier tonnage (70,000 plus  ...

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When it comes to the Chinese Navy, the Type 055 is very roughly analogous to something between the American Ticonderoga class cruiser a Zumwalt class destroyer, in that it has similar capabilities and size to the Ticonderoga class, but it also packs new technologies that will impact the future of Chinese surface combatant design like the Zumwalt class does. The ship's stealthy exterior and its enclosed sensor mast are situated in between the latest Arleigh Burke class destroyers and the Zumwalt class developmentally speaking.

The Type 055 could just as easily be classified as a cruiser than as a destroyer. It's 590 feet long and displaces between 10,000 and 12,000 tons. That is 81 feet longer and up to nearly 2,500 tons greater than America's latest Arleigh Burke class destroyers, making it closer in size to the US Navy's Ticonderoga class cruisers than anything else. It also packs a Ticonderoga class's magazine size, with 128 vertical launch cells available. The Arleigh Burke class has 96. These cells will be stuffed with land attack (YJ-18), and anti-ship missiles (YJ-12), as well as anti-submarine rockets (CY series). Yet, just like America's Ticonderoga class cruisers, area air defense and slinging surface-to-air missiles will likely be this ship's overwhelming mission set and it's specially outfitted with a high-end sensor package that will exceed in this role.

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Post time 2017-6-30 00:03:49 |Display all floors
emanreus Post time: 2017-6-29 01:42
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When it comes to the Chinese Navy, the Type 055 is very roughly analogous to somet ...



Well, emanreus....
I don't think our man "GHOST" and his clans-mans is going to agree with you in that respect. So sad but true.

Yes SAD. SAD indeed that pride "inarguably" just happens also to be our own most deadly and worst of enemy because "ZOMBIES" as "GHOST and KIN", all of which are beasts who had systematically been "PRE-PROGRAMMED by CIA brain washing techniques to dance to the tune of "Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light" from "DAYCARE DAYS" are not going to go away quitely without attempting to salvage their wounded CIA-nurtured pride.

These people (GHOSTS of the world, etc.), weird characters that is, are people with a deadly allergy towards the idea that technology had caught up with the Chinese as technolology ultimately "MUST" catch up with everyone else in the world, and for that of their shortcoming, they just aren't going to be able to live with themself and with the truth.

In short: these people (ghosts) are in essence a dying breed.


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Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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Post time 2017-6-30 11:41:50 |Display all floors

Pride of Britain? No, HMS Queen Elizabeth Is A £6bn Blunder That Should Be Scuttled (excerpt)
(Source: Daily Mail; published June 28, 2017)

By Max Hastings


What a glorious photo opportunity: the new pride and joy of British sea power, HMS Queen Elizabeth, largest warship ever built for the Royal Navy, this week sailed from the Firth of Forth for sea trials.

Here is a 21st-century ‘castle of steel’ to strike terror into the nation’s enemies.

Except the ship is nothing of the sort. HMS QE and its half-built sister, Prince of Wales, are giant embarrassments. They are symbols of almost everything that is wrong with British defence policy.

Their principal promoter 15 years ago was the First Sea Lord, now Admiral Lord West of Spithead, who went on to become a Labour security minister, and more recently an enthusiastic writer of letters to newspapers, explaining why ‘his’ carriers are wonderful.

He urged that, if Britain was to be a modern sea power, a worthy ally of the U.S., we needed giant platforms to carry the American F-35 fighter then under development.

Some of us said from the outset that the new carriers reflected delusions of grandeur, and that the F-35s looked like becoming much too pricey for Britain’s status as a medium-sized nation.

How much smarter it would have been to build a couple of cheap ’n’ cheerful naval platforms from which to launch drones and low-tech aircraft. For that, one could almost have welded steel plates on top of tanker hulls, to create acceptable flight decks.

Anyone could have seen that defence was destined to remain under huge pressure. And it should have been taken into account that the cost of the ships and their planes would soar, as it always does.

What the Navy urgently needed was a large flotilla of small, simple ships to guard our shoreline and look after our interests overseas in regard to piracy, illegal immigration, terrorism and so on.

But no, the admirals — West and his successors — were insistent: only the behemoths would do. There were still enough sensible people in the Ministry of Defence to prevent this lunacy coming to pass, but for one misfortune: in 2007, Gordon Brown became Labour prime minister. In case you failed to notice, he was, and remains, a Scot.

I doubt Brown would have spent sixpence on the aircraft carriers, except for one fact: he cared passionately about Scottish shipyards, and creating jobs in marginal constituencies. When contracts were signed for the new ships, Rosyth on the Firth of Forth became their birthplace.

For the past decade, convoys of dumper trucks filled with Scottish currency, almost all provided by English taxpayers, have headed north to fund the carriers’ construction. The original budget was £4 billion, and the monsters were scheduled to enter service in 2015.

Today, costs are already over £6 billion and counting, while until at least 2020 Queen Elizabeth will do little beyond hosting ballroom dancing classes for her crew, as extensive sea trials are carried out.

Because of ballooning costs, her sister carrier, Prince of Wales, would almost certainly have been cancelled, but the canny Scots ensured that penalty clauses meant it would cost less to complete than abandon the ship. (end of excerpt)


Click  here for the full story, on the Daily Mail website.

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Putin's a killer. This was the claim made by Fox News journalist; Bill O'Reilly during his recent interview with Donald Trump. Trump's reply came in the form of a simple question. What, you think our country's so innocent?

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edisonone Post time: 2017-6-29 15:35
CV-17, or the 001A which too was just launched are said to be of a wee heavier tonnage (70,000 plus  ...

Chinese do t have carrier experience unlike the Brits
Stan, you're holding a gun to God's head. I can't think of a metaphor that's better than this.

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