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Post time 2017-4-27 10:53:06 |Display all floors
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Are China's major state-owned enterprises like the US's "too big to fail" banks?

It seems that the US big companies becomes big as a result of Trust and monopoly, while most Chinese SOEs are there out of nantional strategic purpose and share more social responsibility.


The US banks are "too big to fail" because if they are perceived to be insolvent (liabilities are greater than assets) or illiquid (insufficient cash to meet short term debt/deposits), then the entire payments system and capital markets would freeze up, leading to a downward spiral of panicked investors trying to sell their assets, pushing down prices, creating more insolvency, and increasing the asset selling panic.


In China, the big SOEs are "too big to fail" only in the sense that if they are allowed to declare bankrupcy, then the resulting unemployment may result in social instability. However, the SOE reforms in the 90s suggest that it can be managed with sufficient fiscal resources and political will. Any impact on the financial system would be limited if the state makes up for the losses on the banks that lent to the SOEs.


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Post time 2017-4-27 12:48:30 |Display all floors
The Chinese leadership would not let this happen.

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Post time 2017-4-27 13:28:13 |Display all floors
impact on the financial system would be limited if the state makes up for the losses on the banks that lent to the SOEs.


In China this could be possible.

In most foreign countries the state can only go so far, before the citizens revolt (in next elections if not on barricades).

In China the citizens don't get to vote on such issues, and going on barricades has not worked very well in past.

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Post time 2017-4-27 16:36:14 |Display all floors
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The Chinese leadership would not let this happen.

Nothing like a government guarantee

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Post time 2017-4-27 20:16:03 |Display all floors
Jaaja Post time: 2017-4-27 13:28
In China this could be possible.

In most foreign countries the state can only go so far, before t ...

We revolt against capitalists and unchecked capitalism. It is us that threatened revolt so that we could nationalize vital industries you goofball. Many died for the western SOEs that the modern capitalists have privatized.

And what do we get to vote on exactly? Shut up. Jesus Christ. What a joke.

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Post time 2017-4-28 16:45:24 |Display all floors
HailChina! Post time: 2017-4-27 20:16
We revolt against capitalists and unchecked capitalism. It is us that threatened revolt so that we ...

I have not seen you (or your "us") revolting against anything, and if you also consider voting useless, then I don't know what good you are doing for any cause.

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