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Why aren't the Germans re-militarizing when it can   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2017-4-13 21:34:10 |Display all floors
You seems not to be well informed..German military investment are now increasing and will surpass france after a few years.
New tank, new sltealth bomber to succeed tornadoes, new frigates...Also many stuff will be shared with the frenchies and other european, for cost saving and efficiency.

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Post time 2017-4-14 09:47:45 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2017-4-13 19:46
Germany and Japan have overcome Fascism and colonialist urges. China has not.  China has alwazs ha ...

What's your prove? Which nation will reveal and tell the world "I am going to conquer you"? That's the most dumb military positioning.

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Post time 2017-4-14 09:53:29 |Display all floors
This post was edited by tenith at 2017-4-14 09:54
yasawakic Post time: 2017-4-13 21:34
You seems not to be well informed..German military investment are now increasing and will surpass fr ...

That's right but they have been spending much lesser in GDP terms when compared to UK. UK has been consistent at 2% while Germany at 1.2%. Even as they spend it probably will rise to 1.6% of Germany's GDP only. However in absolute terms UK is somewhere around USD60 billion and while Germany is around USD48 billion. Population wise Germany is about 80 million while UK is about 60 million or just under that.

That's my comparison. Germany has far greater trade and higher population numbers than does UK but military wise, this isn't reflected. Was wondering why the highly capable Germans are slower than UK when it comes to military spending. Have they found a better way to do defending or they were supressed?

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Post time 2017-4-14 13:42:04 |Display all floors
tenith Post time: 2017-4-14 09:53
That's right but they have been spending much lesser in GDP terms when compared to UK. UK has been  ...



The German government has been told by the U.S.A. to eventually spend 2% of their G.D.P. on their military. They currently do ca. 1.3%.

Recently one of their reps said that the shortfall to the expectations by the U.S.A. would amount to 70 billion Euros.

In other words: the Germans are expected to spend 70 billion EUros more on theirmilitary than they currently do.

But the German government says they have no need for a bigger military because they have no other job for their army than to defend Germany and to be ready to help other European neighbours in a case of war.

They do not need 70 billion Euro worth of military spending.

And why should they?

They had better spend it on their infrastructure and on foreign aid.

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Post time 2017-4-14 13:45:53 |Display all floors
tenith Post time: 2017-4-14 09:53
That's right but they have been spending much lesser in GDP terms when compared to UK. UK has been  ...



When you compare Brits with Germans you are committing a blasphemy.

The Brits are Usania's lapdog that bites and growl whenever the big fat poodle in Washington is barking. These two mutts continously snarl and bark at others and often go to fights. The Brits still have overseas colonies which they want to defend - for example and just to refresh your lagging memory: the Falklands and Gibraltar (but these are not the only ones, remember!).

Germany is a country in Central Europe with no overseas dependencies. Its biggest challenger is Russia.

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Post time 2017-4-14 19:23:24 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2017-4-14 13:42
The German government has been told by the U.S.A. to eventually spend 2% of their G.D.P. on thei ...

How do you know the Germans weren't waiting for everyone to lower their guard against them? You've spoken with Ursula von der Leyen?

Usually the more ambitious a country is the more its needs to hide that intention away from Uncle Sam. It is possible that the Germans believe that NATO is to keep the Germans down, keep the Russians out and let the US govern through UK and France, with the last two coming from the same continent being permanent members of UNSC to give US majority say globally. Ambition does not distinguish its platform be it education, economy or security. Having fought two wars, the Germans can be said to have become smarter but definitely not without ambition even in military matters. Currently there are so many powers. It is possible both large and medium powers may become concerned if the efficient Germans moved too fast. Germans are still within top 10 but a tad behind UK and France maybe so they will not to appear as too strong. If one ask a German who he thinks will win if the world goes to war again - the answer could be Germany.

The English has always been vigilant from history and maybe that's why they've kept their Pound Sterling. Centuries of competitions with Germany and Russia, the English should know them well.

Don't take the English for stupid. They are one of the best thinkers around. They came from behind to beat France in the continental war and beat both Netherlands and Spain in sea battles to rule supreme globally  and that English, not Latin became globally used is testament to English supremacy - the English left the world a legacy - "Smart Administration" something no other country had been able to do. The British Commonwealth is still the most powerful organization this world has witnessed and it is currently recovering while US chest thump everywhere. Won't be surprised if one day UK takes back America. UK will not tolerate seeing the size of Russia without itself becoming comparable to it. Once UK rises again, which I hope it does, it is possible that Germany may become motivated in the same way too.

English, Germans and Russians are all good thinkers and therein lies their strongest forte. that's why the English has the largest global network, the Germans the best globally used mechatronics and the Russians the single largest territory.

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Post time 2017-4-15 10:06:10 |Display all floors
tenith Post time: 2017-4-14 19:23
How do you know the Germans weren't waiting for everyone to lower their guard against them? You've ...



What a dumb point

Germany is a First-World country, not a Third-World dump. It is run by a leadership voted into office by the German citizens, not by a minority of spoilt brats who own the only "legal" party in the nation.

Thus the world can trust the Germans: the German people elected people from among themselves with identical or vastly similar objectives in politics and social life into their government. There is not such a big gulf between the rulers and the ruled in Germany as there is in a dictatorship.

If Germans had Fascist tendcencies, we all would know that. You don't have tyo be privileged to have access to the German minister of defence. She cannot order the Bundeswehr to invade Czech again. The military brass would disobey her. The soldiers would not go to war.

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