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pnp Post time: 2018-6-13 14:26
'If CHina were a developed nation, its tourists would be much better behaved.'

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And you miss every point I have been making... Sigh!

Whether CHina is a developing nation is not just a matter of China's standard of living. It's up to the peo9ple to attain a higher level - with or without the material resources.

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pnp Post time: 2018-6-13 14:30
Your definition of devloped and developing goes against the standard, which is per capita GDP, so  ...

Have you ever thought about why some nations are underdeveloped while their immediate neighbours are advanced?

Do you think wealth is first before the status of develo9ped nation comes, or is it vice versa?

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pnp Post time: 2018-6-13 14:30
Your definition of devloped and developing goes against the standard, which is per capita GDP, so  ...

That’s the economic definition of being “developed” vs “undeveloped”. So that means the Arab Oil Sheikdoms plus the European and Offshore Tax Havens would qualify as “developed” due to their high GDP per capita even though those countries hardly have any manufacturing or technology industries. The Arab Oil Sheikdoms even depend upon imported workers to run their “modern” cities which were mostly built with foreign technologies.

China has the world’s largest infrastructure, manufacturing, technology and services industries with such breath and depth that is unequalled by any other country in the world. It is still classified as a “developing” country because of its vast “undeveloped” hinterland and large population of rural villagers. But I don’t think becoming a “developed” country would necessarily imply having a “developed” culture.. The USA is a good example of a “developed” country with an “undeveloped” culture.

What China needs to do is to reinvent traditional and Classical Chinese Culture to create a “modern” Chinese culture appropriate for a “developed” country. China is building the “hardware” to become a “developed” country; what China lacks is the “software” for a “developed” culture.

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sfphoto Post time: 2018-6-14 00:43
That’s the economic definition of being “developed” vs “undeveloped”. So that means the Arab O ...

Well, thanks for apprising Mr Pee the basics of economics although I doubt it will help him get a clearer picture.

Meanwhile you were a little overzealous in writing your post:

. So that means the Arab Oil Sheikdoms plus the European and Offshore Tax Havens would qualify as “developed” due to their high GDP per capita even though those countries hardly have any manufacturing or technology industries.


Europe is the developed part of the group of states with a high GDP, developed in every sense: Every industry and every technology is mastered, there is in fact too much industry and rivalry ("competition") between different states and different plants that produce the same goods.

When I was talking about "developed countries", I clearly had things other than just economics in mind. It is the mental prowess of the people, the general cultural conditions that help develop a nation. The interdependence of European societies and economies demonstrates the high level of culture that they share even as they are separate nations, speak different languages and enjoy individual sovereignty.

The USA has basically a European culture and that has made it so successful. China's success is very, very recent and due exactly to adopting cultural features borrowed from Europe. Maybe you should rephrse the last paragraph in your previous post...

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sfphoto Post time: 2018-6-14 00:43
That’s the economic definition of being “developed” vs “undeveloped”. So that means the Arab O ...

'That’s the economic definition of being “developed” vs “undeveloped”

Yes, I deliberately stick to the economic definition which is more objective than the others.

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seneca Post time: 2018-6-14 08:57
Well, thanks for apprising Mr Pee the basics of economics although I doubt it will help him get a  ...

You have an “Alice in Wonderland” view of Europe as an Old World version of Disneyland. But reality is a lot harsher. Northern Europe led by Germany outperforms and thus dominates the rest of Europe. The Eurozone debt crisis saw Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece and Cyprus unable to refinance their national debts without getting bailed out by EU banks. In Eastern Europe, foreign-ownership of the banking/financial institutions ranks as the highest in the world due to the mass privatization of State-owned banks following the Fall of the Soviet Union. Foreign Capital from Northern Europe dominates the industrial sector in Southern, Central and Eastern Europe. The level of industrial development is highly uneven with Germany as the industrial and financial powerhouse leading the rest of Europe.

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sfphoto Post time: 2018-6-14 18:52
You have an “Alice in Wonderland” view of Europe as an Old World version of Disneyland. But real ...

Enough of your twaddle. I serve you notice that it is a piece of cake to prove that the USA has ten times or more culture to offer than China, contrary to your loudmouthed claim. We are only talking about why China styill is a developing nation, and you have shown some understanding of the point that economics is only the rather superficial part of development. My point is that without a culture to underpin economic progress and prosperity no developmental stage is sustainable. Only Europe has developed a culture that sustains economic change and growth. Elsewhere, "sustainable economy" means stagnant economy. A stagnant economy can leap into life if an accident happens, such as the discovery of resources other economies need and desire to extract.

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