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Post time 2018-2-10 04:30:13 |Display all floors
 Psychological security is more important than actual security. That's why no Australian wants to learn a trade even though they can earn more money doing a trade than a low university worker like a teacher.

Post time 2018-2-10 08:24:02 |Display all floors
 SEARU Post time: 2018-2-9 22:55 That was a special class on mechatronics within the physics department of the Qv-fu Teacher Univer ... I know Qufu, and I spell it 'Qufu", not "Qcvfu". By the way, it is "Do you lack students?" not "Are you lack students?"  4 Your answers to a few queries show that China does have vocational programmes similar to those we have in the West. For example we do have mechatronics classes. That is a combination of traditional mechanics and electronics. The recipients of such education are not called "students". They are called "apprentices". This is a word borrowed from French. The meaning is "learner". An apprentice does an apprenticeship. This means he gets hired by a company that trains him on the job. The company enrolls him in a relevant apprentice class at the vocational school or trade school. For three to four years the apprentice has a job, gets a low salary and studies theory at the school part time. His pay is low because he cannot perform qualified jobs and he has to be taught his ropes by qualified staff from the company. But the company also pays for his theoretical education at the trade school. If he graduates from it, his apprenticeship ends and he is then a qualified worker, for example a mechatronician. If his company has a vacancy, and it probably does, then he rises to the rank of a qualified mechatronician without having to undergo a job interview and application procedures. What baffles me is that China does not have more apprenticeships and better vocational programmes.

Post time 2018-2-10 08:29:27 |Display all floors
 HailChina! Post time: 2018-2-10 03:32 By using so-called American-English and copying the way Americans speak English you Chinese promote  ... I quite agree with you there this once. Chinese use a very parochial U.S. American English and don't understand it. What annoys me every week is when some Chinese talk about "majors" they study at "college" or "university". There is no need to say "I am majoring in hair-dressing study". They should ABOLISH the verb "major in" and the noun "major". Say "I study" and "course" instead.

Post time 2018-2-10 09:20:15 |Display all floors
 seneca Post time: 2018-2-10 08:29 I quite agree with you there this once. Chinese use a very parochial U.S. American English and don ... Yes Americans are very dumb and they sound dumb when they talk. I don't think anyone could disagree with this if they are being honest. I am a great hairdresser you know. I cut my own hair and when I was a teenager I used to cut my friends hair a lot. Sometimes I would take the blade off and shave their heads before they realized. This was way before Jackass.

Post time 2018-2-10 09:29:17 |Display all floors
 seneca Post time: 2018-2-10 08:29 I quite agree with you there this once. Chinese use a very parochial U.S. American English and don ... But yeah - why would Chinese choose to speak like Americans rather than Englishmen? I think we can all agree that the English are the best at speaking English. Not the ones from Liverpool or wherever that say Ospital and Par'y. But come on. Why speak like an American? It is madness. Have you ever seen the film A Yank at Oxford?

Post time 2018-2-10 09:30:54 |Display all floors
 seneca Post time: 2018-2-10 08:29 I quite agree with you there this once. Chinese use a very parochial U.S. American English and don ... Even Australians think Yanks are dumb. Our upperclassmen identify with English and Europeans over Yanks. Any self respecting educated Yank must be ashamed to be American.

Post time 2018-2-10 09:32:15 |Display all floors
 Technical trades around the world go by different names. In Canada, we have machinists, millwrights, welders, pipe-fitters, plumbers, millworkers, carpenters, glaziers, bricklayers, etc. All of these trades, or "vocations" (hence the name, 'Vocational School'), are highly skilled, highly paid jobs. In China, they are all lumped under one name ... "workers". In Canada, if you were to use the label "worker", that would invoke an idea that the person had an unskilled, minimum wage ($10.00 -$15.00/hr (50 RMB - 75 RMB/hr)) job, such as a fast-food restaurant worker. A skilled tradesman, however, can earn between ($30.00 -$45.00/hr (150 RMB - 225 RMB/hr)). A typical workday is 8 hrs (you do the math). Let's look at the Machinist trade. What does a machinist have to know in order to do his job? Mathematics. A lot of it! Trigonometry and Geometry, mostly. Also Algebra. He/She also has to know Metallurgy and Metrology. A machinist also has to be able to work within very tight tolerances, often down to 0.0001 inch (0.00254 mm). To give you an idea of how small that is, the average human hair is only 0.003 inches (0.0762 mm) thick. He/She also has to know how temperature affects metals, plastics, wood, and other materials. A machinist has to know about cutting oils, lubricants, and other chemical compositions which can affect materials. \it is a very complex trade, with many skills involved. If I was to call a machinist a "worker", they would be very insulted, indeed. If it wasn't for the machining trades, much of what we have would never exist, for machinists make the molds that create things like plastic bottles, eyeglass cases, laptop parts, etc. Machinists make the machines which mass-produce chopsticks, matches, drinking straws, knives, forks, spoons, pots, and pans, etc. Car parts, airplane parts ... everything in our modern world that is manufactured by a machine ... was originally made by a machinist. What the Chinese call a "worker", is actually a very skilled person, and should be a highly valued member of society.
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